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EDITORIAL: A question of density

Original post made on Feb 11, 2010

As the city's leaders look into the way planning and zoning rules will shape housing patterns for the next 20 years, they are coming down solidly on the side of taller, denser buildings in three locations — El Camino Real, North Bayshore, and the San Antonio shopping center.

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Posted by Promethis on Drugs
a resident of another community
on Feb 11, 2010 at 8:24 pm

For One

We do not want to be Tokyo

For two

We do not want to be vertical in earth quake area.

For three

We do not need more cement poured

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Posted by brian
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Feb 12, 2010 at 12:13 pm

Don't you mean:

You do not want tokyo
You don't want to be vertical
You don't need more cement.

There are two sides to the issue, and a blanket "We" is disingenuous

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Posted by Praise
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Feb 12, 2010 at 2:59 pm

Congratulations to the City on being proactive with future redevelopment. Change is inevitable. Positive change is a choice.

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Posted by Steve
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Feb 12, 2010 at 3:24 pm

Mountain View is a nice little suburban town. Clearly some folks have delusions of grandeur. There is plenty of high density in a city called San Francisco

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Posted by Big Al
a resident of Willowgate
on Feb 12, 2010 at 3:32 pm

If you want a shining example of a city who planned for and allowed for high density housing (albeit an earlier version of it that was sold as the future), talk a walk down California Ave. between Rengstorf and Shoreline. What a mess. People crammed together renting hovels.

Since everyone likes to cite Europe as the model for high speed trains, apply the same comparison to vertical high denisty apartment towers and the result isn't all that captivating. You'll find just as many ghettos in European high rises as you will the political cultured elite trying to tell everyone how the future will be.

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Posted by DM
a resident of Shoreline West
on Feb 12, 2010 at 4:14 pm

Hey Big Al,

Be careful who's home you call a hovel. I like my home and my neighbohood. I can afford the rent and enjoy living in Mountain View. So who really is acting like the "political cultured elite"? Should I say they live in Willowgate?

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Posted by Doug Pearson
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Feb 12, 2010 at 6:57 pm

I agree with the idea of planning for a city with more people than we have now. I"m not sure what the right number is, but I'm pretty sure it's over 80,000. That said, 3, 4, and 5 story buildings, in selected areas such as North of Bayshore and along El Camino Real, are necessary.

Suppose I'm wrong and our population has already topped out at about 73,000. Developers will not have reason to build many (or any) taller buildings and it will not happen, even if zoning allows it. I would welcome this outcome, even though I don't expect it, because the world in general, and America in particular has way too many people already. (And, no, I do not recommend killing off a few billion people just because I think we have too many.)

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Posted by Political Insider
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Feb 15, 2010 at 7:49 pm

Density is a non-issue. We are no where close to the density level of big cities and supporting mass transportation. No matter what the traffic studies show, there is always a group of no-growthers that like things the way they are. It was on display at the last EPC meeting. Except for one lone commissioner, the other members just cowed to a group that clearly lied and overstated the issues in the neighborhood. They did not listen to staff and said there must be a problem though none of them had the intelligence to challenge any of the neighborhood information and cavalierly dismissed the staff research. If they were that concerned they should have visited the area and they would have seen the fraud perpetuated by some residents.

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Posted by Promethis on Drugs
a resident of another community
on Feb 16, 2010 at 12:07 pm

It was on display at the last EPC meeting.

LOL, It was? How... The greenbelt no-growthers were there just looking dumb and fat as always.. Boo Hooo Hoooo we cannot get our way... wondering were will the google people live,,, They live connected dumb as hammer stupid.

Research???? LOL looked up in a cookbook of traffic analysis with zero analytical analysis of the "real" area, STAFF the fraud perpetuated BY consultants paid to lie for the applicant.

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Posted by Political Insider
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Feb 17, 2010 at 12:56 am

"It was on display at the last EPC meeting." and the previous post.

Thanks You.

BTW, there was plenty of actual traffic and parking analysis counts. Still wouldn't have made any difference.

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Posted by dfb
a resident of Shoreline West
on Feb 17, 2010 at 7:01 pm

No growth does not equal smart growth does not equal no growth.

Growth will happen, whether we like it or not. People go where the jobs are and, with future fuel spikes, will/do demand to live even closer to jobs. This pressure will either force Mountain View to build more housing or lose those jobs to communities who will. My preference is that the planning be done now for when that happens rather than ad hoc variances that make little sense in the long run growth of the community. Just look at some of the great development plans from the 1950's through 80's to see how that worked out. If done properly and connected and associated with regional planning for infrastructure/transit, this will only benefit Mountain View and its residents. :-)

And I'd like to remind everyone to be constructive in your comments, rather than just say NO or whining about not being heard.

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