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Teacher could face battery charge

Original post made on May 5, 2010

A 17-year-old male student has accused his 58-year-old female teacher at View Side Academy -- a Mountain View school for at-risk teens -- of shoving him to the ground during an April 30 classroom argument, police say.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 12:09 PM

Comments (17)

Posted by hi there, a resident of Blossom Valley
on May 5, 2010 at 1:39 pm

What a joke


Posted by John the Man, a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 5, 2010 at 2:31 pm

A joke? How?

The law is unambiguous: you cannot lay your hands on someone unless you are protecting yourself or someone else. You lay your hands on someone on an offensive manner and you SHOULD be prosecuted.

A basic human right is to be left alone. If you put your hands on someone offensively, you are violating that right.

The student may very well himself be wrong, in bringing a rubber ball (??) into the classroom. And he should be dealt with accordingly. But putting your hands on such a student is not an acceptable manner in dealing with such an issue.


Posted by John the Man, a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 5, 2010 at 2:40 pm

Besides, what is she doing arguing with a 17-year-old in the first place? You don't argue with such people. If he won't do what you request/demand, you kick him out or up to the principal.

What you don't do is argue with students or lay your hands on them in any sort of way.


Posted by Joe Shamo, a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 5, 2010 at 2:59 pm

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Posted by ALEX, a resident of Shoreline West
on May 5, 2010 at 3:17 pm

AND WE WONDER WHY KIDS ARE SO OUT OF CONTROL!!! IMAGINE HAVING THAT KIND OF POWER AS A KID - MY FATHER WOULD'VE KNOCKED ME TO THE GROUND AFTER THIS INCIDENT FOR DISOBEYING THE TEACH!


Posted by Call me old fashioned, a resident of North Whisman
on May 5, 2010 at 3:25 pm

The views of John the Man are unfortunately all to prevalent in our society today, and are directly responsible for the structural breakdown of authority in the classroom. I can remember the time when the teacher was the authority figure in the classroom with the full cooperation and support of the parents. Now the students run the show. We expect the teacher to maintain discipline, order and control in the classroom, and when they attempt to do so this is what happens. This parallels the loss of parental control in the home as well. children have lost respect for their parents and teachers, because people thinking like John the Man have rendered them impotent.


Posted by Hubert, a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 5, 2010 at 5:04 pm

poor 17 year old young man pushed by a 58 year old woman and scratches his arm! Just for bringing a dodge ball into class against school rules.

I do imagine that there is MUCH more to this story that what has been reported.


Posted by seriously?, a resident of Blossom Valley
on May 5, 2010 at 8:53 pm

misdemeanor battery usually requires the contact to be either offensive by some standard of normalcy, or with intent to harm. I think this fails to meet that standard. In a school for at risk youth, I would expect a 17 yr old young man bringing a ball into the classroom against the rules and confronting a 58 yr old teacher could be considered to be misdemeanor criminal threatening. Why don't cooler heads prevail... give the student detention, the teacher a warning or a short administrative leave with pay, and be done with it.


Posted by steve, a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 5, 2010 at 9:54 pm

i am sure the 17 year old kid will be citizen of the year. i am sure he did nothing to provoke this. what a joke


Posted by Qrazee, a resident of another community
on May 6, 2010 at 12:45 am

I would not want to be a teacher, a cop, a fireman, a nurse, a doctor...or anyone that comes in contact with other humans. It's all about lawsuits out there. Just seal me in a cubicle and let me do some honest work. I bet someone will find a way to sue me though.


Posted by Old Ben, a resident of Shoreline West
on May 6, 2010 at 2:03 am

This kid has no future.


Posted by kathy, a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 6, 2010 at 7:32 am

Another child with no morals or standards in life. How sad. There are so many of them. We were always taught to respect adults, especially teachers. I agree with Alex, my Dad would have knocked me to the ground too.


Posted by Brandon, a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 6, 2010 at 9:25 am

This school is an "alternative" school for students (kids who don't behave and have severe issues). I'm sure there is a lot more to the story that we will never know about. The story is one sided. I'm sure it is NOT just about a ball being brought into the classroom. Sad, people abusing our public school teachers for $$.

Sad reflection on our society. Lawyers and people just trying to make a quick buck.


Posted by jane, a resident of North Whisman
on May 6, 2010 at 2:41 pm

Around 25 years ago I was a paid aide at Slater School in Mountain View. I remember so clearly the day that an 8 or 9-year old boy came over to me on the playground and basically asked me to "..go ahead and push me!" He was pushing at me with no provocation and basically told me to touch him so that his parents could "sue your ass and the school's ass." This was an elementary student in a public school who was agressively trying to get me to have an issue with him.
I will never forget that moment - it has so stuck with me as a reflection of children, TV, law-suit crazy society and how, without realizing it, our children can be victims of the darker side of society. The boy went on to tell that his parents had told him if a teacher or someone on the playground even touched him, they could sue the school and get a lot of money. Fast forward to a 17-year old in a classroom who gets a scratch on an arm... I am shaking my head over how out-of-balance some things have been and continue to be.


Posted by George, a resident of Rex Manor
on May 7, 2010 at 2:15 pm

Poor Baby... a scratch... I hope he will recover from this injury..I'm sure that he gave a heartfelt meek apology for his crime, and that this teacher, with probably 30 yrs of experience, who volunteered for this type of school (Blackboard Jungle anyone>) was totally out of control..

I say, whack him again.

I sense self defense here on her part.

I hope the Poor Baby Boy gets well and for friggen sake, that he GETS A LIFE.

George


Posted by RoxieK, a resident of North Whisman
on May 7, 2010 at 3:14 pm

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Posted by a.j., a resident of North Whisman
on May 8, 2010 at 7:32 pm

what you could have done jane was report this kid who was pushing you to authorities. Does it matter if they ridicule you? No..and it would not to me. The rule of the law and spirit of the law, if you remain calm and cool and follow it, will work itself through court systems. Could you have gotten pushback from cops who treated it an "insult" that you reported a kid pushing you, a 9 year old at that? Yep..at which point your legal recourse would be to communicate with a judge that there was a juvenile on the lose who was being provoking to other individuals of society and the minor had no restraint from his parents, who were legally bound to him as a 9 year old. This could have forced the parents to have to rectify this situation with the kid to avoid this sort of anti-social behavior from cropping up again.

That would be the stoical action to have performed. I understand that when emotions get high, does not matter whether you are a 34 year old or a 9 year old, humans act on impulse. Moment you gain control of your cognition and recognize your legal rights in a civil society, you can make the law work for you and stick it back in the face of the insolent group. Gandhi used this expertly against the British government, along with his policy of ahimsa to gain great eminence worldwide, and followers. It was his skillful use of the law even in matters that seem trivial. Who wants to go through a burden of representing themselves against a 9 year old right? Well, that is the price to pay to stand up for YOUR rights, which were being violated, even if only from a 9 year old.

Gain your rights back using the rule of law to turn the tables on the kid.


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