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Rail officials head for Washington with survey

Original post made on Jul 28, 2010

California High-Speed Rail Authority officials are traveling to the nation's capital this week to drum up federal support for rail projects, armed with what they say is new evidence that state residents want an alternative to flying and driving -- a week before they plan to submit an application for a share of $2.3 billion.


Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 8:52 AM

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Posted by Old Ben
a resident of Shoreline West
on Jul 28, 2010 at 9:21 am

This project is absolutely ridiculous. The money isn't there. There is no money. Forget about it.


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Posted by Mike Laursen
a resident of Monta Loma
on Jul 28, 2010 at 1:05 pm

We already have an alternative to flying or driving: government-run regular-speed passenger rail. Not many people using that. Is making it a little faster really going to make that much difference in ridership.


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Posted by Alex Haselden
a resident of Rex Manor
on Jul 28, 2010 at 1:19 pm

Yes, faster trains get more riders.


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Posted by Joe
a resident of another community
on Jul 28, 2010 at 1:36 pm

The California High-Speed Rail Authority paid for this survey...you really think they would have come up with any other result?


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Posted by resident
a resident of another community
on Jul 28, 2010 at 1:39 pm

Elect Meg . She will stop this project.


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Posted by another resident
a resident of The Crossings
on Jul 28, 2010 at 1:58 pm

Can Meg (or any other candidate) stop it? Isn't it happening because of a voter mandate from a few years ago? My guess is that there would have to be another ballot measure to stop it.


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Posted by resident
a resident of another community
on Jul 28, 2010 at 2:52 pm

It was in cronical that the governor makes the final desigon.


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Posted by phm
a resident of The Crossings
on Jul 28, 2010 at 4:19 pm

The poll was biased - it mentioned the supposed benefits but not the drawbacks of HSR. See the Mercury News story: Web Link


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Posted by Mike Laursen
a resident of Monta Loma
on Jul 28, 2010 at 9:21 pm

"The Coast Starlight" had 400,000 riders last year. Projected ridership for California's high-speed rail is 88 - 177 million passengers by 2030. That's 220 times as many riders, if we use the 88 million low estimate. A little faster train commute between cities is going to pull in that many more riders?


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Posted by Mike Laursen
a resident of Monta Loma
on Jul 29, 2010 at 9:47 am

re: "The poll was biased - it mentioned the supposed benefits but not the drawbacks of HSR."

The Merc story doesn't get into it, but high-speed rail, to get the levels of ridership that are projected, would have to kill off the business of commuter air travel within California. The plan has an unstated goal of destroying local airline-related jobs.


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Posted by Fiscal
a resident of Castro City
on Jul 29, 2010 at 12:06 pm

HRS is: A) A Sham, B) A Hoax, C) A Boondoggle, D) A waste of our children's money as well as our own, E) All of the Above


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Posted by Fiscal
a resident of Castro City
on Jul 29, 2010 at 1:28 pm

And remember, they aren't lobbying for us, they're lobbying to keep their substantial paychecks. If HSR dies, they become unemployed. THAT has now become the driving force behind HSR. The fact that ridership estimates were almost criminally fudged should have killed it, and hopefully have, no big deal, just what voters used to make their decision


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Posted by Steven Nelson
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Aug 11, 2010 at 11:11 am

Mike Lawson makes a good point on the effects (if magically successful) of this project. All the commuter air traffic would be going by rail. This is why UC Berkeley Transportation researchers and the CA State auditors say HSR Authority staff (and directors) are 'full of it'. 'Fiscal' explains the more personal motivation - if they can't get more money - their careers are at an end in this field.

It's sad, because the concept is great. But look how poorly Rod D. and his thinking has turned out with the ridership projections and routing of out VTA Light Rail.

Lobby the Gov ['cronicle' comment] and your local state legislature member to not authorize the yearly sale of these bonds. {Fiscal Emergency anyone - remember no budget yet]


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