Town Square

Post a New Topic

Rail officials head for Washington with survey

Original post made on Jul 28, 2010

California High-Speed Rail Authority officials are traveling to the nation's capital this week to drum up federal support for rail projects, armed with what they say is new evidence that state residents want an alternative to flying and driving -- a week before they plan to submit an application for a share of $2.3 billion.


Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 8:52 AM

Comments (13)

Posted by Old Ben, a resident of Shoreline West
on Jul 28, 2010 at 9:21 am

This project is absolutely ridiculous. The money isn't there. There is no money. Forget about it.


Posted by Mike Laursen, a resident of Monta Loma
on Jul 28, 2010 at 1:05 pm

We already have an alternative to flying or driving: government-run regular-speed passenger rail. Not many people using that. Is making it a little faster really going to make that much difference in ridership.


Posted by Alex Haselden, a resident of Rex Manor
on Jul 28, 2010 at 1:19 pm

Yes, faster trains get more riders.


Posted by Joe, a resident of another community
on Jul 28, 2010 at 1:36 pm

The California High-Speed Rail Authority paid for this survey...you really think they would have come up with any other result?


Posted by resident, a resident of another community
on Jul 28, 2010 at 1:39 pm

Elect Meg . She will stop this project.


Posted by another resident, a resident of The Crossings
on Jul 28, 2010 at 1:58 pm

Can Meg (or any other candidate) stop it? Isn't it happening because of a voter mandate from a few years ago? My guess is that there would have to be another ballot measure to stop it.


Posted by resident, a resident of another community
on Jul 28, 2010 at 2:52 pm

It was in cronical that the governor makes the final desigon.


Posted by phm, a resident of The Crossings
on Jul 28, 2010 at 4:19 pm

The poll was biased - it mentioned the supposed benefits but not the drawbacks of HSR. See the Mercury News story: Web Link


Posted by Mike Laursen, a resident of Monta Loma
on Jul 28, 2010 at 9:21 pm

"The Coast Starlight" had 400,000 riders last year. Projected ridership for California's high-speed rail is 88 - 177 million passengers by 2030. That's 220 times as many riders, if we use the 88 million low estimate. A little faster train commute between cities is going to pull in that many more riders?


Posted by Mike Laursen, a resident of Monta Loma
on Jul 29, 2010 at 9:47 am

re: "The poll was biased - it mentioned the supposed benefits but not the drawbacks of HSR."

The Merc story doesn't get into it, but high-speed rail, to get the levels of ridership that are projected, would have to kill off the business of commuter air travel within California. The plan has an unstated goal of destroying local airline-related jobs.


Posted by Fiscal, a resident of Castro City
on Jul 29, 2010 at 12:06 pm

HRS is: A) A Sham, B) A Hoax, C) A Boondoggle, D) A waste of our children's money as well as our own, E) All of the Above


Posted by Fiscal, a resident of Castro City
on Jul 29, 2010 at 1:28 pm

And remember, they aren't lobbying for us, they're lobbying to keep their substantial paychecks. If HSR dies, they become unemployed. THAT has now become the driving force behind HSR. The fact that ridership estimates were almost criminally fudged should have killed it, and hopefully have, no big deal, just what voters used to make their decision


Posted by Steven Nelson, a resident of Cuesta Park
on Aug 11, 2010 at 11:11 am

Mike Lawson makes a good point on the effects (if magically successful) of this project. All the commuter air traffic would be going by rail. This is why UC Berkeley Transportation researchers and the CA State auditors say HSR Authority staff (and directors) are 'full of it'. 'Fiscal' explains the more personal motivation - if they can't get more money - their careers are at an end in this field.

It's sad, because the concept is great. But look how poorly Rod D. and his thinking has turned out with the ridership projections and routing of out VTA Light Rail.

Lobby the Gov ['cronicle' comment] and your local state legislature member to not authorize the yearly sale of these bonds. {Fiscal Emergency anyone - remember no budget yet]


If you were a member and logged in you could track comments from this story.

Post a comment

Posting an item on Town Square is simple and requires no registration. Just complete this form and hit "submit" and your topic will appear online. Please be respectful and truthful in your postings so Town Square will continue to be a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information and opinion. All postings are subject to our TERMS OF USE, and may be deleted if deemed inappropriate by our staff.

We prefer that you use your real name, but you may use any "member" name you wish.

Name: *

Select your neighborhood or school community: * Not sure?

Comment: *

Verification code: *
Enter the verification code exactly as shown, using capital and lowercase letters, in the multi-colored box.

*Required Fields

On Tour at Selective Schools: Chapman, La Verne, Redlands, Whittier
By John Raftrey and Lori McCormick | 0 comments | 1,669 views

The dress code
By Jessica T | 15 comments | 1,484 views

. . . People will never forget how you made them feel.
By Chandrama Anderson | 0 comments | 846 views

Camp Glamp
By Laura Stec | 1 comment | 573 views