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Ideafarm arrested for battery, false imprisonment

Original post made on Jan 18, 2011

Wo'O Ideafarm, the self-styled public speaker known in Mountain View for his inflammatory signs, was arrested Friday, Jan. 14, on charges of battery and false imprisonment after he pushed a woman to the ground and held her there for about 10 minutes, according to police.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 11:29 AM

Comments (86)

Posted by USA, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 18, 2011 at 11:50 am

USA is a registered user.

Far be it from me to say I told you so, but let's look at the record...


December 13, 2010 Web Link

IdeaFarm is a divorced wife-beater with "issues". Don't try to paint him as some sort of Don Quixote character fighting for ideals, truths, etc.



January 7, 2011 Web Link


IdeaFarm hits women. Fortunately, his wife left him because of his violence before she became a statistic.

Maybe the MV Voice could interview her to get an inside view on the issue and to put a stop to the people who see IdeaFarm as some sort of misunderstood idealist.



November 4, 2010 Web Link

"connect people wholesomely" ... "he hit his wife"

"Ideafarm says his recent troubles with the law are little more than trumped up charges and violations of his constitutional rights."

Everyone is judged by their words and their actions. Sorry, Wo'O, but you have a lifetime of misconduct from breaking the law, using violence, and using foul language repeatedly. Get your own life in order before telling the rest of us how we should live.


There is more, but you get the idea. IdeaFarm is a troubled person that need psychological help to deal with his anger problems, his personal relationships, and his communications.


Posted by Michael, a resident of another community
on Jan 18, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Although I'm a resident of Sunnyvale, I've traveled down El Camino and seen this man a lot. When I first saw him and his signs, I was a bit confused about what his message was. When I found out he had a website, I looked at it, and I actually thought his message was a good message: People should live and interact amongst one another in a wholesome and unselfish way. In a way, I felt sorry for him because people were always criticizing him and threatening him, when the problem was that they just didn't understand his message, and also considering the fact that the first amendment gave him the right to do what he was doing.

But, believe me, I've changed my mind about him. First off, the city of Mountain View had a right, in my opinion, to take away his van and some of his signs. His van would block traffic, as would he himself sometimes, and also some of his signs had foul and offensive language that we don't want our children seeing and that can provoke anger and violence. Also, I found it kinda ironic that he was saying that we should all coexist wholesomely and unselfishly, yet he had signs like his most recent one saying "queers are perverts". Offensive signs like these divide people, and are selfish, which is the exact opposite of his core message. And also, as "USA" stated, I don't think it's right that he's telling us we're unselfish and that we need to change, when clearly he's the one that's had problems and could use some help.

After reading this article and learning about what he did to that poor woman, who he had absolutely NO evidence that it was her who vandalized his property, I've lost all and complete respect for him. I started losing respect for him when he had signs that were offensive and homophobic. Believe me, I'm for free speech and all, but Mr. Ideafarm has abused his first amendment rights way too much, as far as I'm concerned. It's a real shame that it had to end like this, and it'll be interesting to see what happens to him in the future, but you know, he brought this all on himself.


Posted by Spatula, a resident of another community
on Jan 18, 2011 at 1:19 pm

Props to the first person to show up on his corner with a sign that says "Ideafarm is a violent, mentally-unbalanced assailant."


Posted by jupiterk, a resident of Gemello
on Jan 18, 2011 at 2:33 pm

Let us be objective here. You have a car parked outside your home. You come out of your home on evneing or some morning and see someone vandalizing your car. You catch hold of him and you pin him down. Are you a violent person? Would you like to be charged with battery and false imprisonment? Now I am no supporter of anyone. The details are missing in this article. Did this woman vandalize this guy's propoerty? Why did she do it? How is she realted to him? Or why did she do it? do anyone of you know the procedures for a citizen arrest?

I appeal to MVPD to exercise good judgement and don't use your power to suppress freedom of speech and act of self defense. Don't act vindictive like the gangsters and thugs do. You are officers to protect the law and help safeguard our rights and neighborhood. Please act accordingly.


Posted by MouseTrap, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 18, 2011 at 2:38 pm

What attempts are being made to arrest the vandal who started this entire snowball rolling?
Assuming the vandal is not mentally unstable, they are the real problem.


Posted by Dr. Collateral, a resident of Cuesta Park
on Jan 18, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Dr. Collateral is a registered user.

@jupiterk: Your analogy is incorrect. Ideafarm did *not* see someone vandalizing his sign. He saw someone standing in front of his sign, *presumed* that she was the vandal, and proceeded to arrest her.

So, indeed, MVPD is safeguarding our rights - by preventing random people from executing citizen's arrests without probable cause or evidence.


Posted by yeah, a resident of another community
on Jan 18, 2011 at 2:41 pm

Thank God for his arrest! This man is a true danger to the community, from causing traffic hazzards to his vulgar/offensive messages that can be read by children, and now he has attacked a woman! He had previously beaten his wife and now he has attacked a woman again.. he can NOT be trusted!


Posted by The Eye, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 18, 2011 at 3:04 pm

I hope this incident will help finally remove this fruitbat from our community, once and for all.


Posted by Hopeful, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 18, 2011 at 3:15 pm

It will be a great day when this person is removed from our community. He poisons the very communication channels he purports to support, let alone assaulting our residents. I'm happy he did not have a weapon and attempt to use it defend his possessions.


Posted by oh yeah, a resident of Castro City
on Jan 18, 2011 at 3:21 pm

I LOVE that Ideafarm makes so many uptight people even more uptight. LOVE IT! You people have too much free time to be so enraged by this guy. I feel sorry for you all, yes, I'm lumping you into the pity pot with Ideafarm. You're all equally as sad, and dangerous to our community.
Oh, and he'll be out soon enough, but you'll all be uptight forever.


Posted by Wo Contrair, a resident of Castro City
on Jan 18, 2011 at 3:27 pm

I'm glad he showed restraint in defense of his property. I hate vandals.
What can we do to catch the person who started all this with their vandalism?


Posted by jusme, a resident of Blossom Valley
on Jan 18, 2011 at 3:40 pm

Do ya' think if the "press", in this case the VOICE, would quit printing stories on this character, he might just go away? And, don't start the BS that Mtn. View Police would have nothing to do. Seems to me that they HAVE been doing their job!! Now turn off your computer and go help Mommy set the table like good little children.


Posted by PH, a resident of another community
on Jan 18, 2011 at 4:04 pm

I've lived in Mtn. View for over 30 years and Los Altos before that. This is to say that I, like so many others, am truly one of the ones affected by this person. Enough is enough! He needs to stop looking for trouble with the police, the citizens and the community in general. He may have a right to his opinion, but not at the expense of the rest of us. He is wasting public resources and just comes back for more. It is escalating and can only get worse.
He may be a self-solving problem as the authorities might finally have a reason to get him off the street. It really is too bad he can't get his act together as he really won't enjoy what's coming now. I agree that he should not get all the press attention, but if there are stories to tell, then show the angle that points out the problem he is and let him understand that people have had enough of his foolish behavior.
Now if someone could get that guy who owns the house near Rengstorff and Middlefield with the political message painted on it to clean it up, our neighborhood would look lots better!


Posted by Waldo, a resident of Waverly Park
on Jan 18, 2011 at 4:17 pm

Personally, I enjoy reading the comments in this forum regarding Ideafarm, and wish to thank the Voice for providing Town Square to our community.


Posted by MV Resident, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 18, 2011 at 5:01 pm

I personally hold Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly responsible for this act. If they toned down their rhetoric, we wouldn't have wooden-cart pushing washed-up failed software engineers with made-up names committing acts like these.


Posted by Resident, a resident of Blossom Valley
on Jan 18, 2011 at 5:39 pm

I read with interest all the comments above as well as the "around town" responses to the question: What is the take-away lesson from this weekend's shooting in Arizona? Unlike the person blaming Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly, I believe the take-away in that incident and this one is that MENTAL ILLNESS is to blame. It has the potential to hurt many people: mentally, emotionally and physically. This man is mentally ill. His thoughts are disjointed and inconsistent with his actions. He is a public nuisance and now a public threat. Something needs to be done before he really hurts someone who challenges his thoughts, communications or behaviors. This man needs help and MV needs the help of public health officials to protect our community from him.


Posted by Thom, a resident of Jackson Park
on Jan 18, 2011 at 6:11 pm

This is one sick puppy. This is why people in this city wanted him gone. Go ahead and protect him if you choose but you may be his next victim. I would have tossed his sign as well. We don't need this garbage in Mtn View


Posted by Thom, a resident of Jackson Park
on Jan 18, 2011 at 6:13 pm

@MV Resident - I really hope you are joking here. Blaming others is a bad habit. Blaming O'Reilly and Beck? You are a very funny or just another person willing to blame everyone else for problems.


Posted by USA, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 18, 2011 at 6:22 pm

USA is a registered user.

What's the difference between IdeaFarm and Jared Loughner? One Glock.

IdeaFarm has paranoid delusions. He thinks that the government, particularly the Mtv city council, and the police are out to get him. He rants about if frequently. He has committed acts of violence against women including his now ex-wife and this gal he saw on the street. It is not that far fetched to think that he could show up at a council meeting with a gun.

Hopefully this assault charge will be enough to put him on the no-buy list.


Posted by USA, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 18, 2011 at 6:36 pm

USA is a registered user.

From the article: "He pushed her down and attempted to hold her on the ground, according to Wylie. The woman managed to get up and he pushed her down and held her again, and she began crying."

From "oh yeah": "LOVE that Ideafarm makes so many uptight people even more uptight. LOVE IT!"

I guess that woman is just a real killjoy.


Posted by Joanne, a resident of Cuesta Park
on Jan 19, 2011 at 11:30 am

How often will this guy display his strange ideations before he is holding a gun? Just like Arizona, unstable mental diseases demonstrates increasing aggresion and disruption. He is no folk hero, just an ordinary person needing ordinary medical and pshcyiatric intervention. For now, he may not be a danger to us or to himself but how long before he will be??? Hlding a femal stranger in a hostage situation may only be the start of more dangerous behaviors!


Posted by Anon, a resident of another community
on Jan 19, 2011 at 11:38 am

Saving for the possible disregard for the safety of others, the guy is for the most part an eccentric looking for an audience to promote his opinions. I don't think he would have held the woman without cause he's too much into promoting himself and his views. If there's a fabrication going on, then beware.


Posted by Mirror, a resident of Castro City
on Jan 19, 2011 at 1:31 pm

I'm more worried about the rest of you people's ability to have a gun.
You villagers are pathetic with your faux outrage and your cries of "burn the monster". Where is the outrage over the vandalism that started this in the first place? Oh, I forgot, in MV we can pick and choose which laws we deem are important based upon how we feel about the victim. Two laws were broken, one by an intolerant person who thinks THEY can destroy anything that they don't agree with or understand, and one by a mentally disturbed man reacted to the initial crime in an inappropriate manner, but luckily showed restraint and only held the lady down. I wonder where the cowardly intolerant vandal will strike next?


Posted by Villager, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 19, 2011 at 2:10 pm

"...only held the lady down."

I'm not sure that the woman who was knocked down (twice) and held down would see it as being *only* held down. Is she the one who vandalized his property? We don't know at this point, just as we don't know whether Ideafarm is mentally ill or not.

As for the outrage against the person who did vadalize his property, if and when that person(s) is caught, we'll find out how the community reacts.

The rest of the post towards the villagers was a bit dramatic.

BTW, when tragedies like the Arizona shooting, Va Tech, etc. occur we often read about the warning signs. Could these acts have been prevented had the proper authorities acted on those warning signs? Maybe this is one, maybe not, but Ideafarm has worn out the Eccentric Kook label and crossed a line which will give his opponents plenty of ammo.


Posted by Pillager, a resident of Blossom Valley
on Jan 19, 2011 at 3:04 pm

Seems to me these angry villagers need to be put away somewhere before they react with MORE violence. Its only a matter of time. They seem to be very angry and imbalanced, and absolutely obsessed with this ideafarm kook. One even documented his scrapbook of postings about the guy (a huge warning sign) I fear its only a matter of time before one of them buys a gun and does the unthinkable.


Posted by Um, a resident of Castro City
on Jan 19, 2011 at 3:52 pm

Not to sound like an e-thug or anything, but if I had seen that happen, I would have done a little bit more than just "attempt to persuade" him to lay off the lady.


Posted by MV Mom, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 19, 2011 at 4:01 pm

Uptight? If that means wanting to protect the residents of this city from an obviously unstable man than go ahead and call me that. If he had seriously injured this woman, or God forbid, killed her, you know everyone would be up in arms about why the city didn't do anything. Vandalism is not OK, and I hope the police do take his reports of that seriously. But attacking random strangers as they walk by because you (without reason) think that they kicked your sign over? So not OK. And it makes me really sad to see that there are people in our city who still see him as an amusement. This man needs help.


Posted by USA, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 19, 2011 at 4:41 pm

USA is a registered user.

Villager? Well, I do a pretty good Y-M-C-A routine.


Posted by Sal, a resident of North Whisman
on Jan 19, 2011 at 5:41 pm

Typical wife beater action - he doesn't respect women as his equal.

Then again, not sure anyone wants to equal ideafarm.

Is he ready for the loony bin yet?


Posted by Rousch, a resident of Whisman Station
on Jan 19, 2011 at 7:20 pm

Again with this squeaky wheel? He gets so much press that I am naming him the Lindsey Lohan of Mountain View.


Posted by Mr. Big, a resident of Rex Manor
on Jan 19, 2011 at 10:53 pm

Up until now The Town Kook was nothing more than a nuisance... But, now his assumption that the lady was the person who vandalized his cart will and should cost him his freedom.

Even if we "knew something like this would happen" there is literally nothing we can do about it until something actually happens. Now that it has, I say "throw the book at him" but not because of any previous free speech actions. Sentencing should take into account any previous criminal behavior.


Posted by dfb, a resident of another community
on Jan 20, 2011 at 12:05 am

Ideafarm needs to be committed before he hurts someone else. This incident demonstrates he is mentally unstable and a danger to others around him.


Posted by 40yr resident, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 20, 2011 at 12:13 am

I just want to know.. have any of you folk's ever actually stopped and talked with this guy?
The man lacks the focus to stay on his own topic and is quite contradictory to his claimed beliefs. I used to stop and chat with him now and then. every time i noticed he was getting more random,seemingly frustrated with the lack of interest from the public about his message.I allways thought that one of these days that frustration would turn to anger..and being a proponent of firearms i am glad, no OVERJOYED! that he didn't use one.


Posted by prg, a resident of Waverly Park
on Jan 20, 2011 at 6:01 am

2 crimes committed, but only one makes some people mad. Interesting that the "kook" showed more restraint than the person who seems to have snapped and chucked someones personal belongings all over the place.
I'm very glad that the person who lost control didn't have a gun
and that the "kook" showed restraint by not harming the woman other than holding her to the ground. Completely avoidable situation if the kook was just left alone and the dangerous person who lost control would have gone to anger management counseling.


Posted by Old Vinnie, a resident of Blossom Valley
on Jan 20, 2011 at 8:09 am

Don't misunderstand people's lack of anger towards the vandal as condoning his or her act. We just don't yet know who did it.

I actually agree that he may have snapped due to frustration, not just with people's lack of interest in his "message", but with his situation as a whole. But if you use that argument, you might assume the person who vandalized his property snapped as well after reading the latest "message". Neither is justified.

His history is what is screwing him. And for goodness' sake, he held a woman down for 10 minutes on the ASSUMPTION that she was the vandal. Like him or not, that's just plain stupid.



Posted by mary, a resident of Jackson Park
on Jan 20, 2011 at 1:51 pm

ahh the good old days...i miss the guy that used to walk around town wearing a square dance dress smoking a cigar.
This IdeaFarm guy is now attacking people and a female at that. I never hear/see him in a confrontation with a guy.


Posted by The Eye, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 20, 2011 at 2:59 pm

I hope that his latest escapades will take him off the streets, before someone finally gets fed up and starts going hunting. It just seems like he's managed to rachet up the anger level the public has towards him, and he's riding for a fall, eventually.


Posted by Marshall, a resident of Whisman Station
on Jan 20, 2011 at 4:52 pm

"Interesting that the "kook" showed more restraint than the person who seems to have snapped and chucked someones personal belongings all over the place."

@prg - You must be the "kook" if you think assulting a women (knocking her down twice while she was crying) is less of a crime than tossing property in to a near by bush!?!

I hope you don't take your postman hostage if steps on your lawn gnome!

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Ideafarm should be locked up - he is a danger to himself and the community.


Posted by smiling, a resident of Shoreline West
on Jan 20, 2011 at 6:52 pm

I said it before:

Every village needs it's idiot, we have ours!


Posted by Just A Person, a resident of another community
on Jan 21, 2011 at 11:41 am

I think the problem with a lot of people who don't like him and want him off the street is that they simply think he's "weird" and "different". Also, a lot of people don't agree with some of his messages such as "queers are perverts". I don't agree with that message at all. Don't get me wrong. But, whether you like it or not he has every right to express it just as you have a right to say that "queers are not perverts". It's called freedom of speech. And it's freedom of speech for everybody, not just for people who share the same beliefs as you or me.

Yes, he has done some wrong things like block traffic with his van (which he doesn't have anymore), and make a citizen's arrest against somebody when he had no proof that this woman vandalized his stuff. But had he witnessed someone vandalizing his stuff, he would have had every right to make a citizen's arrest against her. Heck, if I was there then I would have helped by calling the police for him.

But, as long as he's peacefully protesting and not breaking any laws, why should he not be allowed to express his views? It's his right, whether you like it or not. I said it before, and I'll say it again. Freedom of speech means freedom of speech for everybody, not just those who share the same beliefs as you or me.


Posted by Bruce, a resident of another community
on Jan 21, 2011 at 12:53 pm

"But had he witnessed someone vandalizing his stuff, he would have had every right to make a citizen's arrest against her."

But that's the whole point, he didn't witness it.

Also, "But, whether you like it or not he has every right to express it... It's called freedom of speech."

Freedom of speech has limitations in most societies, if not all. I'm not sure how many people agree with the freedom of speech that Westboro baptist Church embraces.


Posted by Bruce, a resident of another community
on Jan 21, 2011 at 12:55 pm

I wanted to make sure that my mistake in the above post isn't seen as a slight towards Baptists. I missed the caps key and it should read Westboro Baptist Church.


Posted by Just A Person, a resident of another community
on Jan 21, 2011 at 1:12 pm

@ Bruce

If you read the first part of my second paragraph you'll see that I agree with you. He didn't witness her doing it, he just assumed it was her and so he had NO right to make a citizen's arrest. I completely, 100% agree. BUT, if he DID see her vandalizing his stuff then he would have had a right to make a citizen's arrest. That's what I'm saying. Either way, the vandal had no right to vandalize his stuff, whether they agree with him or not. You can't just do that.

And with the Westboro Baptist Church, i hate them probably more than anybody. And I believe they have broken the law in the past by picketing funerals that were even private, and so the police would have had every right to arrest them if they had been picketing a private event. And in other situations I think the police had a right to make them stop protesting because they were getting people angry and the police were afraid they might start a riot.

I haven't seen ideafarm inciting a riot. If his messages did cause people to really start a riot and therefore create a danger to the public, then yes, the police should have every right to stop him for the safety of the public. But that hasn't happened at all. So that's why I say that people should just leave him alone. Aside from occasionally blocking traffic and this citizen's arrest incident, I don't think he's done anything to harm anybody during his protests. People just don't like him because he doesn't meet their definition of "normal". That's all I have to say for now.


Posted by prg, a resident of Waverly Park
on Jan 21, 2011 at 3:27 pm

@Marshall, if you read and UNDERSTOOD the words I wrote you would see zero evidence of me stating one crime being less or greater than the other.
I stated that one showed more restraint than the other and IMO that's true. One person lost control and one person exercised control with someone he thought committed a crime against him. If he wanted to do her real harm he would have.
Your lack of comprehension skills with regard to my post may account for your confusion on the overall issue. Tutors can improve reading skills in adults. Good luck.


Posted by sam, a resident of Cuesta Park
on Jan 21, 2011 at 4:14 pm

This guy technically abandons his property on a public sidewalk, which he did when he stepped away out of sight. Someone then moves his message board off the sidewalk and into the bushes, and later then attacks a woman who is innocent of a crime even if she did touch his belongings.

This was his trigger point. He is mentally unstable and needs help.


Posted by MV Mom, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 21, 2011 at 4:15 pm

prg, you think pushing and holding down a random passerby TWICE is showing restraint? Wow. Just, wow.


Posted by Paul_C, a resident of Shoreline West
on Jan 21, 2011 at 4:51 pm

Paul_C is a registered user.

"Freedom of speech" doesn't mean we as individuals have to tolerate him or what he says, and it certainly doesn't mean we don't have the "right" to be happy he's gone.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.


Posted by Just A Person, a resident of another community
on Jan 21, 2011 at 7:43 pm

@Paul C

Correct. You don't have to. You have the option of driving by, or if you truly disagree you can start a counterprotest or go up to him yourself and give him your opinion. But you DON'T have the right to vandalize his property or try to physically run him out of town just because you don't agree with what he's saying. I don't agree at all with what he's said about "queers". I know a lot of gay people and they're very good friends of mine. But, the question I have is this, why should his right to freedom of speech be taken away just because you disagree with him?

If you can give your opinion about him and about anything in general, why can't he? What makes you any better? He wasn't threatening anybody before this. He was just stating his opinion. I don't agree with certain things he says, but let the guy speak his mind. The citizens that have a problem with him need to stop having an axe to grind.

And you do have a right to feel "happy" that he's gone. And he deserves to be gone and in jail right now because, what he did to that woman was wrong. But if he does come back and he doesn't get into any more altercations, let him be there and let him speak his mind. You can do the same thing too, if you disagree, but not try to get him kicked out of town just because your opinion differs from his.


Posted by Paul_C, a resident of Shoreline West
on Jan 21, 2011 at 7:54 pm

Paul_C is a registered user.

I didn't vandalize his property or try to physically run him out of town, and I never suggested his right to free speech should be taken away.

He has the right to speak his mind and I've the right to be happy when he shuts the hell up.


Posted by Old Ben, a resident of Shoreline West
on Jan 22, 2011 at 5:10 pm

Assault is over the line. Assault is precisely where "eccentric" becomes "crazy."


Posted by Mr. Worldallwrong, a resident of Blossom Valley
on Jan 23, 2011 at 12:54 pm

He should be remanded into custody straight away.


Posted by W-Park Dude, a resident of Waverly Park
on Jan 24, 2011 at 9:29 am

Let's face it, he's been an ecccentric, but he "our eccentric", and until this incident, harmless. Clearly, Ideafarm has totally lost it and when he put his hands on and held down a woman, he clearly crossed the line. Hopefully, the court system will take this event seriously, hold him accountable, and, in the end, get him the help he needs. It's been fun to read the blogs on him but really, this whole Ideafarm thing has run its course. Hopefully we can all move on to something more important.


Posted by Didn't Notice, a resident of Cuesta Park
on Jan 24, 2011 at 12:46 pm

He does not affect me in the least, but apparently he's burrowed into the minds of a lot of people here.


Posted by USA, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 25, 2011 at 11:10 am

USA is a registered user.

Jared Loughner does not affect me in the least, but apparently he's burrowed into the minds of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

Yeah, it's all about me.


Posted by Observer, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 25, 2011 at 12:48 pm

Citizens of Mountain View should have a bigger gripes against the city and school administrators who have piled on huge and generous pension liabilities as rewards for their public service, and take your minds off this tormented and disturbed IdeaFarm fellow and attempts to exercise his free speech, minus the assault of course. This guy has been nothing but a diversion from far more serious issues.


Posted by Rhetorical, a resident of Cuesta Park
on Jan 25, 2011 at 1:30 pm

quite a leap of crimes there USA. If you condone that warped line of logic, lets continue to play... you seem obsessed with IdeaFarm...Its clear you're just a stones throw away from murder ala Mark David Chapman's obsession w/ John Lennon.


Posted by USA, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 25, 2011 at 3:26 pm

USA is a registered user.

Rhetorical -

Reductio ad absurdum. Look it up.


Posted by Rhetorical, a resident of Cuesta Park
on Jan 25, 2011 at 3:59 pm

YEAH! I knew my two years of Latin at St Francis would come in handy one day. (I say that all the time)
Thanks for getting me out of at least one Google search Brother Alfred!
Yes, I agree, your post comparing Ideafarm to an attempted murderer and mine comparing you to a convicted murderer were both completely absurd. The difference being, I _knew_ mine was absurd when I wrote it, but to your credit, you caught on after it was explained to you.
Its all a learning process, this life thing. Glad to help. Hit the lights on your way out will ya?


Posted by Anon, a resident of another community
on Jan 26, 2011 at 7:11 am

After 12 days, we still haven't heard from Ideafarm why he held the woman. The article only says "Ideafarm told the authorities that he suspected the woman of vandalizing his property." Maybe she threw his sign, maybe even into the same bush as happened earlier in the day.


Posted by Sal, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 26, 2011 at 12:26 pm

I hope we never hear from him again.

I also hope the woman files a lawsuit against Ideafarm and gets a restraining order.

Ideafarms violent past and future are not welcome here.


Posted by Whoa, a resident of Castro City
on Jan 27, 2011 at 1:31 pm

its Wo'O-Gate!


Posted by Wo\'O Ideafarm, a resident of another community
on Jan 27, 2011 at 7:03 pm

Wo\'O Ideafarm is a registered user.

It cost me $1500 for 18 hours of freedom today. I will be jailed again tomorrow. So I apologize for posting this briefly without reviewing your prior posts; I could only scan them quickly to see that the general thrust is negative.

I am in jeopardy for restraining someone who I witnessed manipulating the straps on my sign, apparently intending to unfasten them, about 10 minutes after I looked up from my computer to see all of my equipment strewn violently in sticker bushes. I snapped a picture of her manipulating the strap. I shot a 5 second movie of her doing it. I have an audio recording of the entire incident. Another woman, perhaps her accomplice, intruded into the police scene and threw my sign off of the ladder that supported it. I made a private person's arrest of her as well. The offense was done in the midst of many police officers.

The audio tape of the incident will support the view that the arrest was made without violence, that the physical contact was minimal, and that the offender repeatedly attempted to leave the scene before the police arrived. The audio tape and the photos will support the view that I had ample probable cause to use sufficient force to prevent the offense that I was witnessing the beginning of. It will also support the view that I was diligent in my effort to make an arrest that was legally flawless.

This is not an isolated incident. I have a year's worth of audio tapes, photographs, and legal process records. This mountain of evidence will emerge into the full light of day. When it does, the general pattern of the interference of this municipal corporation with the spontaneous direct civic speech operation of IdeaFarm (tm) Operations will become easy to discern. It is a pattern wholely inconsistent with our notions of freedom of speech and of government constrained by the peoples' constitution and law.

If the police are not processing both of these private persons arrests, then perhaps the teenagers of Mountain View need to ask their parents some pointed questions about whether there really is freedom of speech in Mountain View.


Posted by Mimi, a resident of Blossom Valley
on Jan 28, 2011 at 2:14 pm

This man is clearly delusional. Just read his post above to see how confused he is. And sure, he has a right to say (almost) anything he wants to. It's not illegal to be delusional. But he crossed the line when he threw a 62 year old woman on the ground. I hope he's charged with assault.


Posted by Ol' Man Down the Road, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 28, 2011 at 2:34 pm

Aw, com'on. Can't we all just get along. Basically this guy's crazier than an out house rat. but that's OK. Most of the people who founded this country were madder than wet hens and they all had guns. For the most part, he's pretty ignorable. For once I agree with the cops, and say that he'll go away if we all don't play. Charge him with assault. Give him three squares and a flop and a one way ticket to Slab City. He'll fit right in.


Posted by Marshall, a resident of Whisman Station
on Jan 28, 2011 at 3:06 pm

@prg - You're right - your thinking defies comprehension.

Attacking and holding down a woman who **looks** at a sign wrong shows **NO** restraint.

While tossing the sign in the bushes (instead of attacking the person with the sign) shows restraint.

p.s. I hope you don't **think** I've commited a crime against you, as you would have a feeble excuse to go off the deep end and attack me.




Posted by Honor Spitz, a resident of another community
on Jan 28, 2011 at 3:10 pm

Clearly, this man is unbalanced; let us all hope that he never gets his hands on a gun!!


Posted by The Eye, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 28, 2011 at 3:38 pm

If he really does have this video, audio and photographic evidence, then let's hope we all see it. It could change the whole face of this story.

And speaking personally, as someone with a PI background: Opinions (including mine) don't matter worth squat...What does the *evidence* actually say?

I hope we all find out soon...


Posted by Sal, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 28, 2011 at 3:40 pm

Boohoo, Woo!

Maybe if you could control your temper you would not be in "jeopardy".

If it had been a man who you thought tampered with your sign, would you have attacked them as well? Or do you save your violence for women only?

Based on what I know of your actions, I hope you get locked up for a very long time. You clearly need a lot more help than you think.


Posted by The Eye, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 28, 2011 at 3:57 pm

Based upon what we're now hearing from Wo'O, he either has documented proof of vandalism or he doesn't. If he does, then he could easily vindicate himself to everyone on YouTube. I believe it when I see it.


Posted by sue, a resident of another community
on Jan 28, 2011 at 5:21 pm

ideafarm should not be alowed to set up shop on street corners any more any where.if he does not want to get in truble with the law. he should retire and his signes should taken away from him and not be alowed to set up on street corners any more.the distrct atterny and the cort should not let him come to our streets any more. as long as he keeps let go out of jail he will keep coming out to the street corners and keep geting in truble.ideafarm should be remoed from our streets for good.our nigborhoods and streets would be safer with out him there.if the corts dont stop him and let him do this some one will get killed.we need to do something to stop him from coming out on our streets before some one dies by his hands.


Posted by sue, a resident of another community
on Jan 28, 2011 at 5:39 pm

i also want to say i have noticed that he only does go only after women.i want to see the cort to confict him and not be alowed to get bail. what would happen if one day a yung mother with a child he goes after.that would not be good.


Posted by Sue, a resident of Cuesta Park
on Jan 28, 2011 at 6:09 pm

For the love of Pete, can we (meaning the Voice) PLEASE stop giving this man publicity? Every time a story is posted about him, it fuels his futile causes.


Posted by saejin, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 29, 2011 at 2:00 am

People are such an unstable lot. Clearly the report posted in the VOICE, (by which you are judging this guy by) is just another typical VOICE distortion designed to get you worked up. The VOICE report used the term "pushed to the ground" which made me think strawberry burns. I was told by someone on the scene, this guy made her remain seated, and stopped her from rising to her feet. When I read "pinned to the ground" I was envisioning two people wrestling, one with their back to the ground fighting for their life.....It was actually just a case of forcing her to remain seated until the cops came. IdeaFarm claims to have video evidence of her tampering with his property.The VOICE simply states "suspected" giving the implication she was not only innocent but that he had no reason to implicate her. So many people willing to burn the monster. Oh we got trouble... right here in River City! The courts hear must have heard the entire story before they let him go. Beating his wife? Here comes visions of a nightly fisting, bruises, blood, and hospitalization... time and time again....We have no knowledge of what happened, severity, recurrence, or if she was dishing out the same. His X-wife has never stepped forward to condemn him as an ongoing threat of any kind. Actually the only reason we know anything about Idea-Farm's past incident of inappropriate behavior is Idea-farm apologizing for it, and saying how wrong it was, and how ashamed he was about it, and how much he regrets having done it. Nothing about this little guy seems dangerous to anyone. I have no doubt the average 61 year old woman can kick his butt! HOWEVER, the VOICE's use of Idea-Farm as target fodder to whip up the mob, seems truly dangerous. Lets keep in mind how twisted VOICE coverage is, as we form our opinions based upon VOICE twisted and filtered facts. VOICE got you upset. That was not an accident.


Posted by Just A Person, a resident of another community
on Jan 29, 2011 at 12:07 pm

@Sue: You would sound a lot more convincing if you had the ability to spell correctly and use proper grammar.

@Sal: If he does indeed have photographic evidence that this woman vandalized his property then I hope she gets locked up and he's allowed back on the street. As far as I know, he hasn't been a danger to society before this happened. People like yourself want him off the street solely because he's "weird". Well, so what? And you know what if the woman who he restrained was the woman who vandalized his stuff then he has every right to restrain her until police come. I would have helped him if I was there.

Bottom line, I'm not saying I agree or disagree with his messages, all I'm saying is that as long as he's not breaking any laws and as long as he's overall peacefully protesting, leave the guy alone. If you don't like his messages, then you can speak to him personally, start a counterprotest, or quite simply, walk right by. But you have no right to get him off the street as long as he's obeying the law.


Posted by sue, a resident of another community
on Jan 29, 2011 at 3:37 pm

since ideafarm has been in jail our streets was peacefull.no drama.


Posted by Sal, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 29, 2011 at 8:44 pm

@Just A Person-

I want him off the streets because:
1. He creates traffic hazards (original reason)
2. He has a history of wife beating, and now may have just hurt another woman for no good reason. (newly added concern)

p.s. "Weird" is just fine by me. Crazy and unpredictable...not so much.


Posted by USA, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 30, 2011 at 11:58 am

USA is a registered user.

Just when I think this violent, misogynistic looser cannot get any worse, it turns out that the women he knocked down and held turns is a 62 year old. She is probably someone's grandmother.

Predictably, he blames the government for his actions.


Posted by Wo\'O Ideafarm, a resident of another community
on Jan 31, 2011 at 11:48 am

Wo\'O Ideafarm is a registered user.

She is also an attorney. It is possible that the whole incident was a setup. She appeared to me to be in her mid 40's.

All of the above people vote. The city council knows this, and bears full responsibility for whatever the police do to please voters rather than uphold the Constitution.


Posted by lynn, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 31, 2011 at 11:48 am

He held her down for ten minutes and nobody took photos or video?? Come on people. Two words: Phillip Garrido.


Posted by Al Fresco, a resident of Blossom Valley
on Jan 31, 2011 at 2:33 pm

"It is possible that the whole incident was a setup."

For what purpose? Suing for everything Ideafarm has? Or something more nefarious, like conspiring with the city attorney and police to drive him out of town?


Posted by Sal, a resident of Old Mountain View
on Jan 31, 2011 at 3:49 pm

"It is possible that the whole incident was a setup."

Yes, and it is possible that you are actually Napoleon just having a bad dream... Please wake up!


p.s. Please add paranoia to this guy's file.


Posted by Wo\'O Ideafarm, a resident of another community
on Jan 31, 2011 at 3:49 pm

Wo\'O Ideafarm is a registered user.

Al Fresco:

I have hundreds of audio recordings that document 18 months of MVPD interference with IdeaFarm (tm) Street Operations, i.e. with my spontaneous direct speech activity. The police are expert at breaking the letter and/or the spirit of the law in unprovable ways. Some of the incidents are outrageously blatant. Many others could be viewed as innocent by people who are naive. But even the most naive people will easily be able to see the pattern when all of the evidence is brought together and made easy to browse.

I am planning to spend February developing Wo'O's Scrapbook, which will be distributed on USB Flash drives. Wo'O's Scrapbook currently features "An Unfinished Street Essay", which is a collection of about 300 pictures, one per day, that document the sequence of sign messages. By the end of February, I hope to add an installation file for IP-DOS (tm), the operating system that I have written. When that is done, I plan to turn to all of the audio recordings to edit and organize them so that they can be enjoyed. Each recording will result in a pair of recordings. One will be the full recording. The other will be a short abridgement that contains all of the juicy parts, with all of the dead space removed.

These recordings will knock you off of your chair. They will also make great entertainment. This isn't the typical "you ran a red light" fare. It's totally outrageous harassement by a police department with (taxpayer) money to burn.


Posted by Al Fresco, a resident of Blossom Valley
on Jan 31, 2011 at 4:19 pm

How about posting the photos, or better yet video and audio clip of this one incident?


Posted by Wo\'O Ideafarm, a resident of another community
on Jan 31, 2011 at 7:54 pm

Wo\'O Ideafarm is a registered user.

Al Fresco: Publishing the evidence would undercut the legal process. For example, if the issue was "tried" in the newspapers, it would be difficult or impossible to select an impartial jury. To prevent having the case tried in the press, all parties to a proceeding generally refrain from discussing the evidence or other particulars of a case, especially a criminal case.

It is, IMO, inappropriate for the MVPD to opine regarding guilt or innocence. A policing agency should focus on its enforcement function and leave the judging to the courts! We are supposed to be able to trust the policing agency to impartially and fairly uncover and preserve evidence. MVPD's apparent willingness to pass judgment and to decide who merits police protection (hostile hecklers) and who doesn't (unpopular speakers) makes me wonder whether the evidence is really safe in their custody.

AFAIK, all of the evidence is in MVPD custody. They have my audio recorder and my camera. Unless a witness took video and concealed its existence from the police, no one but the attorneys are going to see the evidence. (I could exercize my power of discovery, but I do not intend to do so because refraining from doing so will give my testimony at trial more credibility.)


Posted by PH, a resident of another community
on Feb 5, 2011 at 8:06 am

Why are we constantly exposed to this public display of one guy's private issues? Maybe we should all get some signs and stand on public streets and air out our problems for everyone to see. All I see here is that things escalate and our city becomes less attractive to live in and more resources are wasted as time goes by on the problems of one person who, while proclaiming the rights of all, has a very personal issue with the system that he forces the public to take notice of. I don't think most people care, are tired of it, don't want to see his signs any more and just wish he would keep his problems to him self and leave the rest of us alone.
We all have our problems, many of them serious, but we take care of them without being so ridiculously public. Why can't he just go away quietly or find a way to resolve his issues out of the public light. It's ugly, tiresome and not our business. We all have a right to our opinion, but if we all caused so much trouble our city would not survive and society would not exist as we know it, but would fall apart completly and become even more uncivil. We need to work together and consider others, look at how we can be good neighbors and citizens and make the place we live a nice place to live and attractive to those who see it but don't live here.
Ideafarm, if you don't have good legal representation, then get some. If you are in the legal right, I wish you well, but please understand that people are tired of seeing a public display of your issues and just wish you would go away or handle your problem out of our sight. We have the same rights to exist in a peaceful, desireable community, but it seems that peole like you have forgotten that. You would get more support if the public did not have to deal with your actions and be exposed to them all the time. Be a good citizen, try to remember that others have their beliefs as well, stop the inflamatory signs and stick to your personal issues. We don't know who is right or wrong in your case, but you do things that keep public support from being there to help and your tactics are not working. It may be frustrating, but the legal system can help and if a person cannot, in their own mind, win against the city, then they should move somewhere else or get over it and move on with their life as nothing is worth being miserable over forever. Life is only good if we make it so and there are so many people wno have had horrible things happen and they manage to move on. It' the only way because we all have to accept life's challenges and deal with them to be content. I've had my share of problems, like most people do, but I don't make them public and I deal with them, move on, and accept my life or change it for the better. Maybe it's time to work it out as the direction things are going isn't loking like a good solution.


Posted by Forest, a resident of another community
on Oct 14, 2011 at 12:10 am

My dad and I ran a company called Best Airport Yellow and Airport On-Time Gold. Wo worked with us as a driver. His California DMV had an out of state address. Wo had his name changed. We employed him as a cab driver and he was very pleasant. People liked him and he was always peaceful. He is an interesting character indeed. I've got some funny stories.


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