Town Square

Post a New Topic

Joke not funny to council gadfly

Original post made on Feb 2, 2011

Self-described gadfly Don Letcher is known for his weekly, sometimes daily, accusations of sundry city misconduct to local newspapers and city officials. But this week's angry rant from Letcher seems to strike at the core of his 13-year tiff with the city.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 5:05 PM

Comments (27)

 +   Like this comment
Posted by Tom
a resident of Waverly Park
on Feb 2, 2011 at 7:52 pm

He was a cop? I thought that cops need to have good judgement and relatively even tempers.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Mr. Worldallwrong
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Feb 2, 2011 at 8:24 pm

What nerve this guy has!! You got to hand it to him for speaking up.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Old Ben
a resident of Shoreline West
on Feb 2, 2011 at 9:45 pm

Mountain View actually has STANDARDS for rental housing? It was my impression that you could tape a few empty crates together and call it an apartment in this town.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by USA
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Feb 2, 2011 at 10:20 pm

USA is a registered user.

Mountain View seems to have more than its fair share of nut jobs and homeless for just a little suburb.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Felino
a resident of Rex Manor
on Feb 2, 2011 at 10:27 pm

Ha! That's hilarious. I would love to have been present when Mr. Letcher first read the meeting minutes.
He should rent a unit to Ideafarm!


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Arton
a resident of Shoreline West
on Feb 3, 2011 at 7:13 am

So now the witch hunt begins with this guy. The Voice just can't let people exercise their free speech and leave them alone without throwing it to the "community" dogs.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by USA
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Feb 3, 2011 at 9:34 am

USA is a registered user.

Arton - Don Letcher has had messages written on the side of his house and in his driveway for years. No one is impinging on his free speech.

The problem is that people like Don and IdeaFarm are going way beyond expressing their opinions. They are intentionally creating situations around themselves. For example, IdeaFarm publicly displays asinine comments about "queers", though I doubt he really hates them. In doing so, he provokes a reaction which then feeds delusions about government being out to get him. In Don's case, it's the city inspectors that are out to get him.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by @USA
a resident of Rex Manor
on Feb 3, 2011 at 9:56 am

USA- Whatever you want to say about Don Letcher, and there is plenty (I live in the neighborhood), it is no way funny to joke about using government power to take someone's home or property. It is very simply a gross abuse of power in addition to being completely devoid of basic humanity. Tom Mean's did what he does, namely make incredibly and unnecessarily stupid comments in public. What always shocks me is the throng of council sniffers that comes flying out of the woodwork anytime someone dares question their authority or brilliance, which happens far too infrequently as it is.

Your opinion regarding other people's intentions should be kept to yourself. You have no idea what anyone else thinks or why they do the things they do, and for you to project your opinion as fact is weak.

@Tom-It seems like good judgement and even temperment would be nice to see out of the people in charge of the police (city council), too. It's pretty hard to argue that Means comment had either. And I sincerely hope you are not Tom Means.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Hardin
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Feb 3, 2011 at 11:25 am

Judging from the past actions of Mr. Letcher to his tenants, and the writings on his property, its pretty clear that his judgment should be questioned. If he was given a bad hand by the City, he has succeeded only to makes things worse by his subsequent actions.

Whether Tom Means was joking or not is irrelevant. His intentions aren't in question here, its his lack of discretion in recognizing the proper venue when expressing oneself. Council meeting time is for City business and becomes part of the public record. Mr. Means displayed poor professional judgment in "joking" in this venue. Not only that, but it was a poor choice of a joke, considering its potential to be inflammatory.

Every sexual harassment class I've attended for work is in agreement with this: consider carefully what you say in professional circles, during work time, and consider your audience.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by "Just Think About It"
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Feb 3, 2011 at 12:39 pm

What ever happened to freedom of speech and expression? If you don't like it that's fine. Look at this as a peaceful demonstration...........Usually Where There Smoke There's Fire.......


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Old Ben
a resident of Shoreline West
on Feb 3, 2011 at 1:34 pm

Our "elected officials" behave like feudal lords. They should be watching Egypt.

Global Kapital, meet Global Revolution.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by kook kook
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Feb 3, 2011 at 4:16 pm

HES JUS A KOOK LIKE THE IDEA FARM NUT.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by jupiterk
a resident of Gemello
on Feb 3, 2011 at 4:57 pm

Tom Means just underwent training with the gomorrahs in Italy. Looks like he lacks the proper attitude to be a part of this city council. oh, sorry, excuse me. The entire city council is crooked anyways. Go on, Tom. you are a perfect fit with the other members.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by the_punnisher
a resident of Whisman Station
on Feb 3, 2011 at 9:33 pm

This Means behavior is one of the reasons I relocated OUT of the " fiefdom " of Mtn. View. The people near DOG CITY have always had swelled heads and their proclamations sometimes border on the asinine.

Their behavior mirrors the situation you find in countless communities in the Midwest and South, with the MVPD acting like the dreaded " Southern Sheriff " stereotype.

I've seen the property many times and I have wondered what the MV " City Fathers " did to piss him off. Now I know that he got the same treatment.

Add the parochial behavior over the new ILLEGAL ALIEN magnet, I can see where the MV state of the city is headed.

A THIRD WORLD ENCLAVE in the SFBA...or to make things easier: East Palo Alto South....


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Hardin
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Feb 4, 2011 at 8:53 am

"This Means behavior is one of the reasons I relocated OUT of the " fiefdom " of Mtn. View. The people near DOG CITY have always had swelled heads and their proclamations sometimes border on the asinine.

Their behavior mirrors the situation you find in countless communities in the Midwest and South, with the MVPD acting like the dreaded " Southern Sheriff " stereotype.

I've seen the property many times and I have wondered what the MV " City Fathers " did to piss him off. Now I know that he got the same treatment.

Add the parochial behavior over the new ILLEGAL ALIEN magnet, I can see where the MV state of the city is headed.

A THIRD WORLD ENCLAVE in the SFBA...or to make things easier: East Palo Alto South...."

-----------------------

I think you've been reading too many comic books about vigilantes.

Though Mr. Means behavior was unprofessional, the behavior of the City Council and City staff in general is not nearly as barbaric as you expose it to be. That's backed up by the City's distinction of being one of the best run small cities in the US, and the prosperity we all enjoy living here.

Also, let's not fool ourselves, there are no heroes in the article above. If the City acted foolishly with a bad joke, Mr. Letcher has shown an illogical, combative, and destructive bent to his approach to the issue, bordering on paranoia.

This issue is not the black and white issue you are framing it to be.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Garrett
a resident of another community
on Feb 4, 2011 at 1:40 pm

It seemed to me the who issure got started by Zoning


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Neighbor
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Feb 4, 2011 at 3:29 pm

Tom Means comment is both funny and appropriate. Don Letcher is constantly wasting the time of the council and the public with misinformation and accusations of corruption and abuse of power. It amazes me that the Voice gives him so many opportunities to express his nonsense when their own investigations of his long standing grievance showed he was in the wrong and had misrepresented the history of the dispute. While Letcher often sounds reasonable at first glance, his facts are often wrong and he seems to deliberately mislead people. I'd be happy to not see any more letters from or stories about Don Letcher and especially happy to attend a city council meeting where I didn't have my time wasted by his ugly rants.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Steve
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Feb 4, 2011 at 3:37 pm

What an excellent opportunity for some journalism! How about an unbiased story of the battle between Mr. Letcher and the city of Mountain View. You could trace it from its roots, I suspect somewhere with building inspection. Continuing with his arrest at city hall, through Martello's last act (punitive fees mandated when bringing non-conforming properties to code, enacted immediately after Letcher's 'Voice' editorial slamming him) and right up to present day. Let's get the background behind the angry messages. He might be nuts, or just maybe he has something important to warn us.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Neighbor
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Feb 4, 2011 at 3:51 pm

I think the Voice already did that article a couple years ago. As I remember, Letcher version of events did not stand up to scrutiny. I can't find a link to the story I'm thinking of -- anyone from the Voice able to post a link here?


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Ron
a resident of Waverly Park
on Feb 4, 2011 at 4:05 pm

What a load of horse hockey on the part of so many Means attackers on this board. Means may have made a poorly thought out joke, but it is a far cry from that to announcing the death of civility in Mountain View politics. Sheesh. Letcher is a nut, who went off half cocked when he was faced with permit regs and tossed his tenants and started a public tantrum. To MOST residents, his painted walls are a JOKE, not a last bastion of free speech against the evil MV government. And the Voice is not "throwing him to the community dogs". He threw himself to the dogs of public opinion when he blocked his driveway, posted keep out signs, and painted rants on his wall!


 +   Like this comment
Posted by PH
a resident of another community
on Feb 5, 2011 at 7:23 am

Just like Ideafarm, he has the right to free speech, but I wonder where it crosses the line between the rights of an individual and the good of a society as a whole. These people are not playing on an even field as it it very hard to know the truthful facts of their complaints and the city doesn't put people on corners with signs or paint their replies on buildings. If they are right, then they should find relief through the legal system and keep their personal differences with the city out of the public's face. Many people are tired of, as well as insulted by, these public displays of private issues and just want to drive down the streets without seeing these ugly signs. How many of us would want to live across the street from these things and have to look at them all the time? The media should run factual, accurate, unbiased stories that adequatley tell the public about these people and then stop giving them so much attention. After that they might stop this stupidity and let us have a better city to live in.
One question: Does Lechter even live in our city or is he just another property owner out to make a buck? After all, the people who live here should be the first concern of the city council.
Why don't these guys just go away quietly and let us have a nicer city to live in, as I am certainly not the only one who feels that these people make our community less attractive to everyone, and that alone can have a negative economic impact on all of us.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by DCS
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Feb 8, 2011 at 8:29 am

Old Ben - LOL! You are absolutely right, the rentals in Mountain View are a disgrace. I can't even tell you hom many rentals I visitied and left in disgust before deciding to rent in San Jose. We own a small condo here in downtown now.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Mntn Maven
a resident of Waverly Park
on Feb 8, 2011 at 12:52 pm

Seems like a lot of people in town can't take a joke. Y'all should move to Berkeley where free speech is disallowed.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by No
a resident of Gemello
on Feb 8, 2011 at 2:40 pm

No Trespassing

No Warning

No Kidding


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Susan
a resident of Castro City
on Feb 8, 2011 at 3:17 pm

Don also makes life fairly miserable for many businesses in the vicinity of his house. He needs to have a good chat with a mental health counselor and get some meds to help deal with his paranoid view of life in a very nice city.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Management
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Jun 6, 2011 at 1:13 pm

More POWER to Don Letcher!


 +   Like this comment
Posted by eldesthanson
a resident of another community
on Jul 13, 2011 at 10:40 am

even a nut job can be right. mountain view inspectors do adhere to insane rules.

for example, you can have a sink in an office building for your employees to wash their food. of course they will also wash personal dishes there. but mountain view health inspectors will shut you down if you add a dish washer for them to use.

how many of you have a refrigerator with an ice maker at home? convenient, right? well, according to moutain view inspectors, you are RISKING YOUR LIFE! so don't try sneaking one into your mountain view office.

the inspectors don't care if it makes no sense, it's the rules! well, THEIR rules, anyway.

but you know, evicting all your tenants and getting painted as insane yourself won't make cleaning up the tin pot inspection empire any easer...


Don't miss out on the discussion!
Sign up to be notified of new comments on this topic.

Email:


Post a comment

Posting an item on Town Square is simple and requires no registration. Just complete this form and hit "submit" and your topic will appear online. Please be respectful and truthful in your postings so Town Square will continue to be a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information and opinion. All postings are subject to our TERMS OF USE, and may be deleted if deemed inappropriate by our staff.

We prefer that you use your real name, but you may use any "member" name you wish.

Name: *

Select your neighborhood or school community: * Not sure?

Comment: *

Verification code: *
Enter the verification code exactly as shown, using capital and lowercase letters, in the multi-colored box.

*Required Fields

Ray Rice and Domestic Violence
By Chandrama Anderson | 16 comments | 1,469 views

Company partners with Coupa Cafe to launch mobile payment app
By Elena Kadvany | 0 comments | 1,468 views

For the Love of Pie
By Laura Stec | 5 comments | 1,073 views

All Parking Permits Should Have a Fee
By Steve Levy | 9 comments | 840 views

Ten Steps to Get Started with Financial Aid
By John Raftrey and Lori McCormick | 0 comments | 715 views