Post a New Topic
Original post made
on Apr 25, 2011
[Post removed due to disrespectful comment or offensive language]
Not all rental properties are ghetto, they aren't full of section 8's, i am sure the people building this project are thinking long term. A good Rental office, with high standards should do the trick. Maintance, and good property mamangement is the key. Oklder buildings on California and Latham stand a bigger chance of going down hill.
I've written a letter to the Editor voicing WHY my concerns are a real possibility.
I hope that the MV Mouthpiece has the intestinal fortitude to publish it.
It addresses existing points and what has happened in the future in other similar situations.
You may want to check out the situation in EPA...The " responsible landlords " haven't been so responsible...and these landlords are located in Palo Alto..a supposed " responsible community group ".
California Street has already turned ghetto the last time I visited your " sanctuary city ". Look outside the box.....
The illegal laborors will look elsewhere if the project is run by a
UNION general contractor,,they will not be allowed on the site and will not avoid the taxes that all union trades pay AND local people will be put to work in this crummy job market,not to mention the safety programs and highly trained proffesionals building it better.
Has anyone been to downtown Sunnyvale latley? They could'nt even build it, much less fill it. Good Luck with that, Mt. View.
On the above comment re: downtown Sunnyvale --
I live in OMV but visit downtown Sunnyvale fairly frequently. The Town Center project there got bogged down by the worst economic downturn in 70 years, like many projects... but it is making steady progress. Nokia just moved its entire Bay Area operation into one of the new office buildings there, the new Target is open and is MUCH nicer than the one at Showers in MV, and Murphy Avenue is doing incredibly well given the recent recession and all the construction. The city just relocated their farmers market there after being over at the Sunnyvale train station for a while, and on a recent Saturday it was packed.
A new developer who sees the long-term value in a location like that (near services and transit) has picked up that project, and they will succeed -- just like new San Antonio Center will succeed because of its strategic location & value.
If you build it they will come?? When it is done (if) I will be happy. Target had their own money to build. Nokia is a big step. But will Mt. View be so lucky? And what about the steel skeletons?
Here I am thinking we might have a Macys or Nordstrom in town, and now all we getting are relocated Target, Rite Aid, and (yet another blah blah) Safeway. I could throw a rock from any point in Silicon Valley and it would hit a Target, Rite Aid or Safeway. How unoriginal. Santana Row? Hardly. More like Skid Row.
It will so nice to larger, newer Safeway with an expanded deli/bakery and Starbucks inside of it, like the other newer Safeways. Rite Aid is pretty useless with Walmart & Target in the neighborhood, not to mention CVS. Please, I will die if you take away Trader Joe's. I hope that is remaining. Please - no housing mixed with retail. It is the wrong place for such a thing. A dog park? Why encourage people to bring their dogs to the store? That makes no sense. Green space means the day laborers will be hanging out, gambling, drinking, littering, peeing in the bushes, etc.. It is a problem. Just give us the new Safeway, keep the Trader Joes, and add the usual Safeway accompaniments like Jamba Juice, Starbucks, etc. Keep it simple.
Five stories is too tall in a city called Mountain View. How many views of the mountains will be cut off to satisfy city hall's need for tax revenues to pay for the pension liabilities it has incurred?
And then there's all the traffic it will bring. Did I just read that there will be an in-lieu of parking fee paid? Oh that's right, someone has to pay for Duggan's retirement checks.
I don't like the in-lieu parking fee either. I thought I read somewhere that the streets/stoplights around San Antonio already have a D or F rating, now we are going to increase traffic in this area? Crazy. Almost as crazy as the parking allowance for the Minton's rental units. It seems like every single building or structure that Mountain View is building is going to have a below than recommended parking allowance. Why doens't the City Council see that this harms the city?
The only ghetto this development would turn into is a Google employee ghetto. There are tons of young tech workers who aren't in the position to buy a single family home yet, and don't want to settle for an old 1960s-era apartment on California Street. They also want to live someplace where they can walk to stores and restaurants. Downtown can't grow enough to fit all of them in it without encroaching on the single-family home neighborhoods of Old Mountain View. So creating another mixed use area at San Antonio Center with shops, housing and a parks makes a lot of sense.
That said, I hope the Council takes the Planning Commission's recommendations to heart in regards to the center's new buildings facing public streets. These kinds of developments have a tendancy to turn their back on the surrounding city streets - throwing up a fortress of ugly, boring, long blank walls or parking garages that cut them off from surrounding neighborhoods. A major goal of San Antonio Center's redevelopment should be to make walking around the site, or from one part of the center to another, welcoming, pleasant and convenient.
City council should do something about apartment buildings on latham and california before allowing new apartment buildings. Those apartment buildings are very poorly run and with poor living conditions...
Regarding comments about a 'parking in-lieu fee' for this development -- the author of this article actually stated this incorrectly. This development will be required to pay a PARK (not parking) in-lieu fee, which the City requires for all private developments like this, to help defray the cost of building new parks in the city. This is a good thing - making sure that new development pays for accompanying services. The developer is also providing about an acre of open space over the Hetch Hetchy, so there will be some new green space right within the development.
You can read about the PARK in-lieu fee in the packet for tonight's City Council meeting (item 5.1) here:
@OMV thanks for the clarification on parks vs. parking. Hopefully some of that money can go towards a mini-park in our neighborhood (St Francis Acres).
The Hetch Hetchy area can not be built, so it's really not a lot of skin off the developer's back (and probably why the developer has still to pay the park in lieu monies)
Absent of the article and the report, is the impact on the Los Altos School District. Are there any hard numbers on how much money the district will gain via developers fees, increased property taxes...?
Mtn View is not like alot of places, we aren't high end or low end, we are kinda of in the middle.
What to do with the S.A, Shopping Center, it is old and rundown.
What to do with rundown apt buildings, that is something that is big problem everywhere.
Think outside the box, i was told this, my view of thining outside the box is far different. The question is do you want a car centered low key type arrangement or have a people centered, mixed use with stores/offices/hosuing.
There is so many ideas.
Could this be used to help start the Grand Blvd plan for El Camino or just another strip center with housing.
I think they may be moving the Target store because the Target store has a decent size parking lot. Then they can put more housing where Target is now. The square footage of the housing is probably going to be close to the retail square footage. Safeway down there needs to expand as it is too small ever since the crossing was built. I remember it being understocked before the crossing was built. It is difficult to park at Walmart or Trader Joes now. How will it be when there are more shops and a new Safeway? They should have underground parking like Whole Foods does.
More growth and development to produce overpopulation to impact everything and everywhere.
What a wasted opportunity. I can already shop at Safeway and Rite-Aid.
Anybody remember the Home Depot proposal for this center? This proposal makes Home Depot sound great.
Thank you, MVer, for saying what needed to be said. The availability of clean, functional, modest apartments in Mountain View is woefully inadequate. You have a choice between run-down apartments from the 1960s on California St or high-end luxury apartments in the Avalon Towers. Build these apartments or at least rebuild the ones on California St!
Don't miss out on the discussion!
Sign up to be notified of new comments on this topic.
Post a comment
Posting an item on Town Square is simple and requires no registration. Just complete this form and hit "submit" and your topic will appear online.
Please be respectful and truthful in your postings so Town Square will continue to be a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information
We prefer that you use your real name, but you may use any "member" name you wish.
Select your neighborhood or school community: * Not sure?
- Bailey Park
- Blossom Valley
- Castro City
- Cuesta Park
- Jackson Park
- Monta Loma
- North Bayshore
- North Whisman
- Old Mountain View
- Rengstorff Park
- Rex Manor
- Shoreline West
- St. Francis Acres
- Stierlin Estates
- Sylvan Park
- The Crossings
- Waverly Park
- Whisman Station
- another community
Verification code: *
Enter the verification code exactly as shown, using capital and lowercase letters, in the multi-colored box.
WUE makes out-of-state tuition more affordable
By John Raftrey and Lori McCormick | 2 comments | 2,539 views
Local picks on 2015 Michelin Bib Gourmand list
By Elena Kadvany | 1 comment | 2,187 views
Ode to Brussels Sprout
By Laura Stec | 13 comments | 2,125 views
Go Giants! Next Stop: World Series!
By Chandrama Anderson | 1 comment | 1,648 views
Home & Real Estate
Shop Mountain View
Send News Tips
Circulation & Delivery
Palo Alto Online
© 2014 Mountain View Online
All rights reserved.