Town Square

Post a New Topic

Tuesday: new plan for high-speed rail to be unveiled in MV

Original post made on Mar 12, 2012

A possible new business plan for California's high-speed rail project is set to be revealed Tuesday evening in Mountain View at a public hearing hosted by State Sen. Joe Simitian.


Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, March 12, 2012, 1:46 PM

Comments (10)

 +   Like this comment
Posted by Old Ben
a resident of Shoreline West
on Mar 12, 2012 at 6:22 pm

Maybe we should start looking into whether a RICO indictment is applicable to this open theft of public monies.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Old Ben
a resident of Shoreline West
on Mar 12, 2012 at 6:24 pm

For the initial and ongoing cost of this ridiculous boondoggle, we could enact and sustain a European-style single-payer health care system for every citizen of California.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Ned
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 12, 2012 at 6:46 pm

The price doubles and the politicians are ready to sell us the new business plan. Why aren't the first looking into the old business plan and figuring out where all the money went and why the cost has doubled? This whole thing is just priceless example of how screwed up this whole politician-union-consultant-contractor boondoggle is.

And when I look at the plans, the blended system still has the majority of the four track bypass lanes in Mountain View and Sunnyvale. Isn't it just strange how Palo Alto, Menlo Park, and Atherton some how walk away with just two tracks? Money talks, while we get the shaft. No wonder this is being held in Mountain View.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by george
a resident of Castro City
on Mar 13, 2012 at 12:26 am

Let's go with open trench rail lines through the cities.
The space above can be used for new construction and park space.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Garrett
a resident of another community
on Mar 13, 2012 at 2:16 pm

I don't think this HSR will get built, just like the Bay Area and the rest of the country, we don't build much. The Airports keeping growing, planes are getting bigger. Look on a Map it will show you how bad the Higway system is. 580 is the only freeway to I-5 or you can use the Highway to Los Banos which shold be turned into a freeway. The interstate that goes into Barstow should be built right to 101. Second Bay Bridge should be build, 85 needs to be built to Fremont. A freeway from the 101 to the Dumbarton Bridge should be built, so does a highway from 680 to Dumbarton Bridge. Plans for a 4th Airport are needed or turn Moffett Field into SJC. BART needs to take over Caltrain, a Ferry Network must be placed in the Bay Area. I-5 needs to widen, 99 will be turned in a Interstate highway. Which idea should be built, which one will be able to move the most amount of people and the cost


 +   Like this comment
Posted by David
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Mar 13, 2012 at 4:35 pm

Penny wise and pound foolish. Do you love cars so much that an expensive high speed rail, even if noisy and disruptive a few times a day, doesn't make obvious sense on all fronts?
* Reduce pollution
* Free us from oil-rich despotic and totalitarian regimes
* Connect cities and create biz opportunities and value for in-between suburbs and exurbs
* Give time to work and contemplate while traveling.

Also, my humble opinion? Trenches are the way to go: cheaper, less intrusive, more aesthetic, noise reducing.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Garrett
a resident of another community
on Mar 13, 2012 at 9:52 pm

I like the idea of an trench, it could be open in some places, buildings can be built over the tracks. Lightwight building could be placed to create rental income for the HSR. Stations with offices and retail could be built. The cose will have to be looked at, the walls of the trench could be deigned to lessen the sounds of passing trains.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Old Ben
a resident of Shoreline West
on Mar 13, 2012 at 10:50 pm

Every HSR operation worldwide is losing money. This project enriches a tiny few at the expense of the many. The only people promoting it are the ones who will make money off of it, bleeding the taxpayer dry.

People prefer to fly: it's cheaper and faster, worldwide.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Christopher Parkinson
a resident of Willowgate
on Mar 14, 2012 at 10:01 am

The thing that is disturbing here is the nention of MTC and CalTrans and CalTrain in the same sentience. I hope everyone realizes that the 4 track option is alive and well just three tracks and CalTrain has said that all of Mountain View is 3 tracks. It also is very disturbing that a former BART executive does not see the merits of the safety conscience BART fulfilling its 5 county destiny. What we will do is use the vast funds of the Gas Tax through the MTC creating the foundation where the CAHSRA gets the tracks built for them by CalTrain electrifying. This skirts the EIR and is illegal as it is simply and upgrade.

If we do not stop this, what we will get is all at-grade as it exists now, higher frequency of electric trains running at high speeds to the tune of 8 to 12 minute frequency. Grid lock will occur at all the at-grade intersections. The local streets will fill up with cars that use their GPS to find local alternatives. That means Central to Stierlin to Shoreline over the tracks. Get ready for this. If CalTrain gets their way, the CAHSRA gets their "bookend" in the north up the CalTrain corridor and no EIR needed. It is illegal.

It is time for a referendum on Prop 1A. It is time to stop this insanity.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Maria
a resident of Willowgate
on Mar 14, 2012 at 12:21 pm

The tracks absolutely must be trenched. We have enough fatalities as it is. I would hate to be a CalTrain engineer.


Don't miss out on the discussion!
Sign up to be notified of new comments on this topic.

Email:


Post a comment

Posting an item on Town Square is simple and requires no registration. Just complete this form and hit "submit" and your topic will appear online. Please be respectful and truthful in your postings so Town Square will continue to be a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information and opinion. All postings are subject to our TERMS OF USE, and may be deleted if deemed inappropriate by our staff.

We prefer that you use your real name, but you may use any "member" name you wish.

Name: *

Select your neighborhood or school community: * Not sure?

Comment: *

Verification code: *
Enter the verification code exactly as shown, using capital and lowercase letters, in the multi-colored box.

*Required Fields

Local picks on 2015 Michelin Bib Gourmand list
By Elena Kadvany | 5 comments | 3,198 views

Ode to Brussels Sprout
By Laura Stec | 20 comments | 2,476 views

Go Giants! Next Stop: World Series!
By Chandrama Anderson | 1 comment | 1,860 views