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on May 14, 2012
No wonder the state is bankrupt. That's a total waste of $53,788.
what is the status of condo's, its public, right? my downstairs neighbor smokes and it comes right in my windows and skylights. What can i do to not get 2nd hand smoke in my own home? He has claimed he has the right to smoke, and the association has not supported me. Just curious what the rule on this is now.
So, I guess if I am going to light up, I will make sure I am walking. If I am walking then I am clearly "passing from one destination to another".
In all seriousness, I am a smoker and I have mixed feelings about the ban. For example I get that people don't want to smell cigarette smoke while they are eating outside (I don't either!). But I doubt this will address that much since essentially anyone walking down Castro can smoke as long as they are moving...
To rorob: I think the law is on your side now. See the Mountain View Online article: Web Link. Near the end is the following report: Smoking is also now banned in duplexes, condominium and townhouse complexes, and apartment buildings. My understanding is that it covers Santa Clara County. Good luck!
What a freaking joke, no wonder why California has a huge deficit. I'm not even a smoker, and I actually GET the ban on smoking indoors, but this has now moved to the realm of NANNY STATE! You can't tell an adult what they can and cannot put in their own body, trust me, they will smoke anyway. Some drunk lady came out of a restaurant drunk and yelled at my friend last week, threatening to get the police and acting hostile, then proceeded to get in her car and drive her two little kids home drunk. Hypocrisy at its finest! We even had establishments that kept them off the street by providing an outdoor smoking section, but the nutty little bastards ruined that as well.
Makes ya glad to live in a place where we can't afford 1/2 of a cop's salary, but we can spend over 50k to creat an ordinance that any decent 12th grade kid could write up during one home room session.
Way ta go council.. Hey, I have an idea... for 50k I will draft an ordinance that prohibits males from looking at females, and stops the ladies of the town from looking at some hunk guy. I mean... look where those looks lead to.... increased population, future drinkers/smokers, and money spent in bars and Dairy Queen.
Ah, the good uses for 50k.
Well, you all, we can vote them out! If you don't like the people on the council, vote them out! I am an ex-smoker, but geez, they are really coming down hard on these people. The moment I step outside my place of residence, I cannot control what someone else does. I see most smokers go out of their way not to be a nuisance. I don't have any hard feelings about them. I do think the council is going to "heck" and there are only a few people on there I have any respect for. I won't name names, but please people--when it comes time to re elect, try tried and true good people who don't waste our money, and maybe a new council member. I use to have so much pride in our City council but now I feel sort of embarassed. No, not by all of them, but if you don't like it, change it! Thanks for letting me have my say. I love Mountain View!!!!
I'm a smoker and I vote. I'll vote for anybody but the busybodies that passed this ordinance.
what a total waste of money.... smokers are just the easy target..it has become politically correct to attack their legal behavior and freedom....concentrate on the drugs that are destroying our young people and families...and the illegals who are breaking our laws...they are costing us taxpayers more than 50 GRAND A DAY in mt. view...
This is ridiculous and a waste of money. I don't smoke and I find that commercial with the woman smoking out on her balcony and the second hand smoke reaching a baby in the crib, a total joke.
There is no scientific evidence that second hand smoke kills. If that was the case. Baby boomers and Gen X adults should all have lung cancer and or be dead.
"funded with a $53,788 grant..." How much of city staff's time is spent searching out funds to support their bureaucratic empire? Is this ordinance really what the majority wants? Shame on our spineless city council!
I support any and all methods to limit smoking. I shouldn't have to put up with your noxious emissions at every turn, walk through a wall of toxic fumes every time I want to go anywhere, nor see your nasty cig butts littered all over the place. You act like smoking is akin to the first amendment....guess what, smoking is not a "right".
I know people who are very sensitive to cigarette smoke and it sometimes messes them up for the rest of the day, sometimes even longer, when they are forced to inhale won't they don't choose to inhale. They don't have a choice, just like with allergies, but it's completely up to the random smoker who can ruin their day.
If I had one wish, it would be for smoking to disappear from existence. Anyone who relies on it is weak-willed, IMHO, yet when their "right" is infringed they suddenly have the will to complain and moan like an old woman. Bring on prop 29! Maybe the added cost will get a few more of you rethink your rotten habit.
I support anything that makes it so people who don't want to breathe cigarette smoke don't have to. Honestly, a smoker "actively passing from one destination to another" doesn't bother me. Relatedly, I support the "Multi-Unit Residence Smoking Ordinance" whole-heartedly. In my apartment building, all units have patios. It's California of course, so we all have our windows open most of the time. The guy below me smokes on his patio. The smoke wafts up into my unit. He might as well be smoking in my unit. I want my home to be smoke-free! And if places with outdoor dining areas are smoke-free too, that's fantastic.
I checked the Constitution; there is no right to smoke. Smoking is a privilege, not a right. The problem is that someone choosing to smoke almost anywhere violates the rights of someone else choosing not to have to smell the smoke. The State/Cities are forced to play nanny because individuals just aren't responsible to police themselves, or feel that it's their right regardless of how it impacts anyone else. That was a fantastic use of taxpayer dollars! The direct and secondary costs of smoking are astronomically more expensive than the $54K pittance expended by City of Mountain View on the ordinance.
City of Mountain View needs to also enact a law that bans smoking in multi-tenant housing across the city. The current law did not go far enough. Smoke from someone smoking above, below or beside another attached unit permeates the walls and floors of adjacent units and it's impossible to escape for non-smokers. Forward thinking cities like City of Belmont enacted a citywide ordinance on Oct. 9, 2007 for just those reasons. It's an inevitable conclusion that this will happen statewide over time; City of Mountain View, as a trendsetting municipality, should proactively be on the leading edge of that wave.
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