Town Square

Post a New Topic

Bike use climbs in Mountain View

Original post made on Oct 3, 2012

Bicycle advocates are buzzing about new census data which shows that bicycling to work is on the rise in Mountain View -- so much so that it is now just about equal to that of Portland, Ore., the self-proclaimed "bike capital" of America.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 1:17 PM

Comments (20)

 +   Like this comment
Posted by employers are leading the way
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 3, 2012 at 2:22 pm

The main reason for increased bicycle commuting is that employers are encouraging it. They are building showers and locker rooms on-site and building secure bicycle storage rooms to eliminate theft. Employers are also encouraging cities to improve bicycle routes to the work sites. Improving bicycling facilities at work is way cheaper than building bigger parking lots.

Of course, the fact that big tech companies mainly hire younger more energetic workers probably has something to do with it.

With the salaries that companies like Google are paying, I doubt that gas prices has much to do with the Mountain View trend, though that may have an effect elsewhere.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by CMV Resident
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 3, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Bicyclists should be required to walk the Stevens Creek Trail multiple times before riding on it so they can get a sense of how their riding affects pedestrians.

Many bicyclists are considerate, but most are obnoxious, arrogant, and and rude.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Human Powered
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 3, 2012 at 3:21 pm

@employers: Good points, however I am no spring chicken and I ride to work as frequently as possible. It is nice having a shower to use at the office, a place to store some essentials, and a safe place to store my bicycle. Also encouraging that my employer and the property management are also encouraging people to cycle or use some other means to commute than by driving a car.

@CMV: Yes, some cyclists can be obnoxious, but then so can many pedestrians on this trail and elsewhere. Many times 2-3 people will block the entire path and refuse to let a cyclist by no matter how polite the cyclist might be, solo pedestrians walking on the wrong side of the path or perhaps walking with a dog and blocking the path with the animal's leash and so on. I walk, cycle, drive and ride a motorcycle. I see the best and worst of many of my neighbors and fellow travellers. It is not all one-sided and it isn't always an 'us versus them' situation as we have all been 'us' as well as 'them' at one time or another. Be kind to one another, treat everyone as you would have them treat you if the roles were reversed. Accept that there are still going to be inconsiderate people regardless. Sorry, that's just life, try not to let that get the best of you please.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by pedestrian
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 3, 2012 at 3:21 pm

I've found that most pedestrians and bicyclists are very considerate as long as everyone obeys standard trail rules like keeping to the right side of the trail. When people spread out across the trail, they block oncoming traffic as well as passing traffic, and then no wonder some people get annoyed.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Oh Stop It
a resident of Castro City
on Oct 3, 2012 at 3:27 pm

I would LOVE for cyclists to have to walk the trail just as I would love pedestrians to have to RIDE the trail so that they can see how turning blindly to the left, being completely deaf with ear buds and walking into oncoming riders while trying to pas a stopped stroller.
I ride and walk the trail and I can tell you horror stories from both sides so lets not be self serving and sanctimonious attitudes.
Its a MULTIPLE USE TRAIL. We all need to take responsibility for our own safety. Its not anyone's job but our own, and since the story is reporting cycling is only gaining in popularity, you should do your job well.

I'll add that as a mostly pedestrian users of the trail I find the majority of riders on the SCT to be much more polite than cyclists I come across in other areas. This is generally speaking of course, but I think most users are coexisting well. There's always a few cranks, though.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Wow
a resident of Waverly Park
on Oct 3, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Haters gonna hate, and they love to hate on cyclists.
Its socially acceptable bigotry so people don't hide it, but its still bigotry.

Imagine thinking about an entire group of people as mostly rude arrogant and obnoxious. Except for a few, Eeeeveryone else is terrible. Now, instead of saying "cyclists", let shine a light on what's really being sold and use the word "minority" (you can pick your favorite) This will help you see the bigotry:
"Many <minority> are considerate, but most are obnoxious, arrogant, and and rude."
Hmmm...Not the statement of a logically thinking individual IMO.

When the person who believes this sees <minority> they will act
accordingly. They won't be friendly, and they will be on guard for any perceived rudeness. Is it any wonder they find what they are hunting for?


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Doug Pearson
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Oct 3, 2012 at 4:26 pm

I've been riding the bus to work more or less regularly for 10 years or longer and I can say from experience that the number of bike riders who pass by while I am waiting for the bus has definitely gone up, in agreement with your point that "Bike use climbs in Mountain View".

Human Powered: Well said.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by kman
a resident of Monta Loma
on Oct 3, 2012 at 4:28 pm

Here is a solution that hasn't come up.

The bikers and foot traffic need more room, solution is simple.

Make parking on certain streets illegal. Then there would be plenty of room for the bikers and pedestrians and there won't be a reason to reduce the lanes.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by kmam
a resident of Monta Loma
on Oct 3, 2012 at 4:32 pm

The real problem is the population explosion. With more building of homes and more people moving to the area, we will eventually exhaust all our resources. Our infrastructure will be hit hard.

What if we don't have enough water for everyone to flush there toilets?


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Swing Anna Miss
a resident of Castro City
on Oct 3, 2012 at 4:43 pm

kman,your solution does nothing to address excessive speed. Did the guy on the bus stop simply need more room? There was nothing parked in front of him.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by David
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Oct 3, 2012 at 5:47 pm

Mountain View has an excellent opportunity to improve bike safety by electing council members who consider it a priority.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by CMV Resident
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 3, 2012 at 5:50 pm

So far the bicyclist are responding exactly as I predicted... obnoxiously, arrogantly, and rudely.

Dear "Wow" - I'll bet you own a BMW.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Wow
a resident of Waverly Park
on Oct 4, 2012 at 5:15 am

@CMV Resident, I drive a Honda. Also, it seems like non bikers were also being critical of your comments as well, but once again, selective observations based in bigotry have you only seeing what you want to see. I'm glad to see the majority of posters agreeing that _most_ everyone gets along on the trail. Personally I don't like bigots of any flavor, but I do hope your anger keeps you warm at night.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by gcoladon
a resident of Slater
on Oct 4, 2012 at 9:13 am

gcoladon is a registered user.

@ Human Powered,

Thank you for the beautiful post! It made my day.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Garrett
a resident of another community
on Oct 4, 2012 at 9:22 am

What about all the jobs created, people come here to work. Ok we can build more housing away from MV, what about all those cars driving in. More cars driven in means more traffic, more space needed for highways, house people on farmland who will drive on highways to MV.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Smiley
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Oct 4, 2012 at 1:43 pm

Yeah bikes! I love seeing all the people around Google tootling about. It adds a really fun vibe to the area and I'm sorry, but it just looks fun! I think I might break out my bike tonight, "bigotry" be damned, I'll look for the happy people :)


 +   Like this comment
Posted by kman
a resident of Monta Loma
on Oct 4, 2012 at 2:13 pm

@ Anna

If the problem is speeders, then the Police need to get involved.

My comments where to make it safer for the cyclists and pedestrians.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Yeppers
a resident of Stierlin Estates
on Oct 4, 2012 at 4:44 pm

@kmam, The police have been stepping up patrols on Ca Ave but deaths have continued. Besides, the costs of a designated full time CA Ave only patrol would be a huge hit to the police budget and as we have seen, even with stepped up patrols, deaths have happened because they cannot be all places at all times...forever. Lane reduction would address the safety of peds and bikes _and_ the speeders.
Nothing wrong with driving single file down the road at the speed limit.
Lets git 'er done!


 +   Like this comment
Posted by James Thurber
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 4, 2012 at 4:54 pm

I find Mountain View a very bicycle friendly city. I'm delighted to hear that more and more folks are hitting the road vis a vis two wheels. The more of us that are out there - the safer it becomes for everyone.

I also noticed that gasoline prices have jumped lately. One of these days I ought to consider purchasing a car. In the meantime it's been bicycle, walking, buses and the occasional train ride.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by kman
a resident of Monta Loma
on Oct 8, 2012 at 2:50 pm

@Yepper

Speeding will happen whether it's one lane or 2. Lane reduction won't stop someone who wants to speed, rather it will move the speeder to the surrounding streets, where the kids play. Is that what you want?


Don't miss out on the discussion!
Sign up to be notified of new comments on this topic.

Email:


Post a comment

Posting an item on Town Square is simple and requires no registration. Just complete this form and hit "submit" and your topic will appear online. Please be respectful and truthful in your postings so Town Square will continue to be a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information and opinion. All postings are subject to our TERMS OF USE, and may be deleted if deemed inappropriate by our staff.

We prefer that you use your real name, but you may use any "member" name you wish.

Name: *

Select your neighborhood or school community: * Not sure?

Comment: *

Verification code: *
Enter the verification code exactly as shown, using capital and lowercase letters, in the multi-colored box.

*Required Fields

Don't fund the rape culture at my alma mater
By Jessica T | 37 comments | 3,107 views

New oyster bar opens in downtown Mountain View
By Elena Kadvany | 4 comments | 2,454 views

Palo Alto and Bay Area Election Facts and Thoughts on the Implications
By Steve Levy | 18 comments | 1,632 views

I am Grateful for Love
By Chandrama Anderson | 0 comments | 1,288 views

And the Winner Is…..
By Laura Stec | 0 comments | 755 views