Posted by Old woman LG, a resident of another community, on Jul 21, 2009 at 8:20 am
I'm curious, why wouldn't the "circle of men" let the police through (or put another way, why were the police unable to get through the circle of men)? Did the men actually *want* the fight to continue? Why wouldn't they try to stop the women? I suppose we should assume the same things that prevented the three male police officers from stopping the fight immediately also prevented the circle of male onlookers? How often do officers need to use Tasers on men? Well-written story, but would like to see more details in the future.
Posted by ALEX, a resident of the Shoreline West neighborhood, on Jul 21, 2009 at 2:20 pm
That's funny - why wouldn't they (the circle of men) try to stop the women? Because men love to see women fighting, that's why! Those "women" (term used loosely) were probably dressed in short skirts and skin tight tops and were rolling around on the ground, all over each other. Men love that stuff!
Posted by JB, a resident of the Cuesta Park neighborhood, on Jul 21, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Why is this bar still open - it causes nothing but problems. It brings in such a crowd of people who really bring down the vibe in downtown MV. Just trying to walk down Castro near this club is a bit daunting. The clothes and attitudes are both terrible.
Posted by USA, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Jul 21, 2009 at 3:33 pm USA is a member (registered user) of Mountain View Online
With the type of music played at the Monte Carlo, it's going to draw troublemakers from outside the area. Web Link The Monte Carlo loads them up with alcohol then dumps them on the street late at night. That's always going to create problems.
Sam -- I'd love to see it turned into an art theater. That idea has been kicked around for a while, but it is not financially viable even in a good economy. In the short term, I think the best we can do is to have a strong police presence to let trouble makers know that they are not welcome here.
Posted by Rex, a resident of the Rex Manor neighborhood, on Jul 21, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I like the idea of an art house theater! Maybe these gawking wastoids could actually discover that there are more interesting and entertaining things to look at than a couple of drunk gals pulling a 'Jerry Springer' on the streets of our fine city.
Posted by Bruno, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Jul 21, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Joe, you really made me laugh out loud.
So two random girls from Oakland get into a fight at the Monte Carlo? The Monte Carlo sucks and anyone with any sense can see that. Still, it's not like the place should be shut down just because of this. Stuff happens.
Posted by NW Resident, a resident of the North Whisman neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2009 at 9:21 am
No, the Monte Carlo should not be shut down just because of this one incident. It should be shut down because of its ongoing history of being a blight on our downtown community and a drain on police resources that could be better used patrolling other parts of the city.
This place has had a long history of drunken fights, alcohol violations, public urination, and other offenses of disorderly conduct, probably far more than any other club on Castro Street.
It's clear that the club owners cannot handle their patrons and don't care what happens to the larger community once those patrons leave their doors. Enough is enough!
Posted by Kathy, a resident of the Sylvan Park neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2009 at 9:42 am
I absolutely agree with the other comments that the Monte Carlo has always been a low class establishment that brings troublemakers into downtown Mountain View. It is a total dive. We have a downtown Association, what are they doing about this? I don't know how the owners even got a license, the City goes to great lengths to dictate signage on a new business or to drag out the permit process on a legitimate business, but when it comes to something that is a real problem they do nothing. The Monte Carlo has got to go, an Indie/Art house movie theater with a nice cafe on the street level is a great idea.
Posted by MV, a resident of the Shoreline West neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2009 at 10:59 am
We don't venture into that block on weekend nights because of this club. Its been a long time since this club patrons are casuing trouble from missing teen, to racial abuse, to random fights, with club goers stabbing at after parties etc.
I really don't understand why this place is still open in a semi-residential neighborhood.
Hopefully Mountain Voice can pass all these comments to city council.
Posted by USA, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2009 at 11:52 am USA is a member (registered user) of Mountain View Online
"Hopefully Mountain Voice can pass all these comments to city council" ... who will respond with "affordable housing" initiatives so that the outsiders will move here and no longer be classified as outsiders. Problem solved.
Posted by katy, a resident of the Sylvan Park neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Anyone you believes the Monte Carlo should be shuttered needs to write a letter to the editor AND CC every council member. We need to send a message that this type of 'business' does not belong in downtown Mtn View. The city should scrutinize any business that requires bouncers to control their 'clientele'. I don't want to turn Mtn View into boring Los Altos, but maybe a nice jazz club, piano bar etc, would be a nice alternative. With Shoreline Amphitheater and Monte Carlo MV is becoming a D List destination.
Posted by Bruno, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Katy said, "With Shoreline Amphitheater and Monte Carlo MV is becoming a D List destination."
I strongly disagree with your assertion. This is how Mountain View will turn into Palo Alto, large overreactions by residents to small time issues. Shut this down, next it's shut Molly's down and Mervyn's too. Anything you don't agree with, just ban it. Also, by doing so we can learn to be more judgemental.
Posted by MV, a resident of the Shoreline West neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Bruno, I am not sure about Amphitheater but Monte Carlo need to be shutdown. Every month there at least a couple of incidents. We don't need to turn into Palo Alto but at the same time we don't need turn into a city where people are afraid to walk in downtown after 9 PM.
Posted by USA, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2009 at 5:18 pm USA is a member (registered user) of Mountain View Online
I went by the Monte Carlo last night around 8:00. It's a nice, classy venue that belongs there, but by playing the music that it does, it is going to bring in a bad element. It would cost the owners nothing to switch to jazz or some other style of music that would draw a better crowd.
Posted by tinkerbell, a resident of the Jackson Park neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2009 at 9:07 pm
I think they should shut it down and the other night clubs too, all u see is a bunch of slutes out there looking for men and starting problems. when u go for a walk at night thats all u see is a bunch of drunkies. it was a nice downtown before, but it has all changed since they have to have all these night clubs here. shut them all down
Posted by Allie V., a resident of the Blossom Valley neighborhood, on Sep 11, 2009 at 3:16 pm
While I read all the comments posted for this article I am disgusted with the people who wrote them. Ignorant bunch is all I see. Clubs are clubs doesn't matter what kind of music they play, clothes they wear, and people that attend this place. How can you sit there and criticize one club and not open yourself to the obvious. Be honest most of you are RACIST yes racist, what makes the other clubs better??? that they don't have MEXICANS (Latinos), The clothes are more American standard. oh Please, I'm so sadden by this, even tho I don't Like the music or the fashion that these group of people enjoy It is still America and they are free to do what they please. [Portion removed due to disrespectful comment or offensive language]