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Local police honor fallen Oakland officers
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on Mar 24, 2009
Mountain View police are wearing black bands across their badges this week to honor their fallen colleagues in Oakland after four officers were shot dead Saturday in encounters with a parolee.
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posted Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 11:02 AM
Posted by RMT of Rex Manor
a resident of Rex Manor
on Apr 21, 2009 at 1:16 am
"clear", if that is your real name... ;-)
For starters, I always find it amusing that it's only the left-wing types and gun-haters in general who talk about "conspiracies". Certainly, I don't personally know any gun-owners who believe in such non-sense. Conspiracies belong to the fevered imaginations of fiction writers, not to rational people. I ever made any claims of "conspiracy", nor do I believe in such garbage.
Secondly, I am about as Liberal as one can get on almost all social issues, like gay marriage for example, so don't even start to assume you know me or to claim I am "right-wing", nor do I ever listen to Rush Limbaugh-ha-ha-ha.
I specifically avoid trusting sources I know to be biased pro or anti and I go for original data, like FBI Uniform crime reports.
The true facts are out there for anyone to find on their own, a good starting point is to really read and understand the FBI Uniform Crime Reports. Not an easy read, I admit, but the data is all there for anyone to see, IF they are willing to risk learning their beliefs are wrong. Unlike most people, I was willing to take the risk and learn the facts instead of just blindly accepting the claims in the media.
At one time I was perfectly happy to support pretty much any sort of restrictions on gun ownership anyone suggested, that was before I had bothered to go look up the facts being spoon-fed to the public by the media and politicians. Every time I tried to verify a media claim by original sources, I kept finding out that they were lying.
"safer" means "safer", just like the meaning of the word "is" is is.
As usual, the gun-haters alter those words they don't wish to hear.
Gun-rights advocates NEVER claim anything will make anyone perfectly "safe", NOR do any gun-rights advocates EVER claim that everyone should carry a concealed handgun. But the gun-haters change the words and then make ridiculous claims about things that were never actually said.
The gun-hater propaganda claimed that alowing ordinary citizens to carry concealed handguns in public would result in rivers of blood in the streets in all the cities of all those states. Of course, no such dire events ever happened. No wild-west shoot-outs, no innocent by-standers caught in "crossfires", etc... not one of the "sky is falling" predictions of the guun-haters ever came true.
"safer" means that UNLIKE the claims of the gun-haters, those states which have allowed concealed carry have seen improvement in all types of criminal attacks against people since the concealed carry laws were enacted. (arson not part of the issue and rape stats are virtually impossible to track due to wide variations in reporting)
And "safer" meaning that we Americans are SAFER TODAY from violent attacks than at any year since about 1960!
And as far as comparisons to other nations, the only scientifically valid way to compare to different locations is to compare the slope of the trends before versus after a specific change in the gun laws.
Every nation on earth found that violent crimes in general and even gun crimes INCREASED when gun ownership was more heavily restricted. There is not one single case in the history of the world where any nation has gotten safer from violent crimes by making it harder for law-abiding citizens to lawfully obtain firearms. Never happened, never could!
Obama is not the only president or politician who has caused a massive increase in gun ownership, but he has certainly been the most effective at selling more guns. The percentage of USA homes which now own guns is higher than ever in the history of the USA! Bill Clinton helped sell his share of so-called "assault weapons" and magazines with more than 10 rounds each as well.
As far as where people live, city or country, makes no difference. Crimials go where they know they can find the most helpless victims and they avoid places where they fear they might run into someone able to protect themselves. Criminals are like other animal preditors. They know they can't afford to take risks because they can't afford to get hurt because they can't get help if they do get hurt. That's why criminals seek out the most helpless victims they can find. Like the helpless people in gun-ban central, Washington DC.
The right to self-defense by gun (or other personal weapons) is a basic human right above and beyond any laws, even above the Constitution itself. The right to firearms existed BEFORE the Constitution was written and will exist even if that document is ever forgotten.
Once again, the standard gun-haters ignorance shows through!
In fact, the NRA has SUPPORTED many of the federal and state gun-control laws passed since it was founded shortly after the Civil War. The NRA supported 1968 GCA, 1938 NFA, NICS background checks system, just to name a few, and countless state gun-control laws! The NRA SUPPORTED the total federal registration for all types of machineguns for example.
You want to see a group who really supports the right to guns? Check out the JPFO Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, or Citizens of America, or Pink Pistols (a gay pro-gun group), or Gun Owners of America, or ...
The NRA may be the oldest civil-rights group in the USA, far older than the NAACP, and certainly the biggest gun-rights group, but the NRA is FAR from the "extreme" group that the gun-haters all claim! Most gun-rights groups are far more protective of our gun-rights than the NRA ever has been!
As far as different laws for different "types" of guns goes, the criminals are not restricted in any manner by laws targeting any specific types of guns, they can always get any sort of guns they want from the black market exactly like people do with illegal drugs.
As far as restrictions by "type" for ownership by law-abiding citizens goes, there has never been any evidence which shows that any such restrictions by type have ever reduced the criminal mis-use of guns or been effective at preventing criminals from getting any types they want.
Personally, I accept the 1938 NFA total registration and heavy-handed restrictions on lawful ownership of full-autos, ie machineguns, ie assault rifles,... I know it's utterly irrelevant to criminals and crime, but I am neutral about keeping it.
As far as any "regulations" goes, I have no problem with the part of 1968 GCA which makes it a serious crime for persons with a felony conviction history to posses or try to posses any type of firearms.
The people who have already proven they can't be trusted to behave themselves in a free society have forfieted their right to be trusted with a firearm. Not everyone's opinion.
Clearly, "clear" everything you've said is standard off the propaganda list of talking points I've heard my whole life without any new claims at all nor any supporting facts at all.
They also were the propaganda points I used to believe before I tool the time to RESEARCH THE FACTS, which few people ever bother to do.
What the media spoon-feeds us is the tired old big-lie propaganda told endlessly so most people wont bother to check those claims because they have just heard them so many times that most people simply assume they must be true and are too lazy to check.
No, it's NOT a "conspiracy", it's just lots of ignorant people repeating the same lies they have been told and never checked out for themselves either.