Posted by Marco Esquandoloas, a resident of another community, on Aug 11, 2009 at 8:44 am
I don't know that busting 4 kids with drugs in a Phish parking lot is really what I would classify as a 'sting'. It's more like shooting fish in a barrel (no pun intended). The fact that they only brought in 4 kids is actually a testament to A) how well behaved Phish fans are in general and B) what a waste of time and money sending undercover cops into a concert parking lot is. Isn't there some actual violent crime going on around San Jose that could use those resources?
Posted by knowitall, a resident of another community, on Aug 11, 2009 at 2:59 pm
My God! What has the world come to when busting drug dealers is considered a "waste of time" for police officers! Don't you people realize the druggies ARE the people committing the most of the so-called "real crimes"? And the article says the undercover officers did the sting - isn't that the JOB of undercover officers? To bust drug dealers? Do you people expect them to sit back and ALLOW dealers from Nebraska, Washington, etc. to come into our nice city and deal candy-like drugs to our kids? And do any of you know how long it takes to actually make and process one arrest? Four arrests is not bad at all given the amount of time they had. I feel so disenchanted with our society when I see comments like these. One can only hope you people are all as sick and demented as you sounds.
Posted by PeaceLove, a resident of the Shoreline West neighborhood, on Aug 12, 2009 at 3:32 am
knowitall said: Don't you people realize the druggies ARE the people committing the most of the so-called "real crimes"?
Actually, psychedelics like marijuana, LSD, psilocybin and ecstasy are in no way associated with any crime at all, other than the bogus consensual crime of using them. When people talk about the evils of "drugs," they're referring to unconscious, self-destructive behavior. The pro-psychedelic position is the exact opposite; psychedelics are mind-expanding and deprogramming.
More generally, every major study of the Drug War conducted over the last 100 years has concluded that that the effects of drug prohibition are worse than the drugs they seek to control. So yes, busting drug dealers is, as a point of fact, a waste of valuable police resources, money and lives. (Ref: Web Link)
Phish fans are some of the most progressive, loving and conscientious people on the planet, and there is no history of problems with any of the drugs for which people were busted -- drugs that are vastly safer and far more useful than either alcohol or tobacco.
knowitall also said: One can only hope you people are all as sick and demented as you sounds.
I certainly don't hope for anyone to be sick or demented. If you do a little research, I think you'll find that it is the consensual crime laws like those against (some) drugs that are sick and demented...and un-American.
Posted by alex, a resident of the Shoreline West neighborhood, on Aug 12, 2009 at 7:33 am
I am glad to see that the majority of folks here have their mind right. There is no reason to bust these kids other than the fact that we have these dumb laws that cops just follow,(but don't believe in), because its their job. How long we have till enough people decide that this war on drugs is a waste of time, a NEVER ENDING witch hunt.
Know-it-all, I am sorry for you and your kind, the closed minded.
Common sense can't be taught, either you have it or you don't
Posted by Bob Bitchen, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Aug 12, 2009 at 2:17 pm
GET A CLUE PEOPLE, BUSTING A FEW FUNLOVING HIPPIES FOR SELLING MILD DRUGS TO FELLOW CONCERT GOING HIPPIES SHOULD UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES GET ANY POLICE ATTENTION WHEN AT THE EXACT TIME THAT THIS BUST WAS HAPPENING A 12 YEAR OLD CHILD WAS HIT BY STRAY GUNFIRE JUST 3 MILES AWAY IN EAST PALO ALTO!
Maybe we should rethink our use of police resources!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Concert Goer, a resident of the Monta Loma neighborhood, on Aug 12, 2009 at 2:21 pm
If they only busted 4 people with 7 undercover officers then the officers were retarded. I went to the concert and just walking from the parking lot to the venue I could have arrested 50 people just for what I saw them visibly doing, what kind of "undercover" are the local police practicing????????????
WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY AND RESOURCES, GO CATCH A REAL CRIMINAL!!!!!!!
Posted by Greg, a resident of the Shoreline West neighborhood, on Aug 12, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Four people out of approximately 20,000 is 0.0002%. Why is this news? What a bunch of well behaved kids. And non-kids. I am a 50 year old long time homeowner and fine upstanding member of the Mountain View community and I was there too.
Posted by ALEX, a resident of the Shoreline West neighborhood, on Aug 12, 2009 at 4:39 pm
The drugs mentioned in the bust should be legalized anyhow. I don't know of any violent episodes while under the influence of those drugs. Drive-by shootings, methamphetamine manufacturing, crimes against women and children, burglary, auto theft...am I to assume the police have no other criminals to chase in Mountain View?
Frankly, with the economy in the tank right now, I'm surprised anyone can afford the drugs!
Posted by RealityCheck, a resident of the Cuesta Park neighborhood, on Aug 13, 2009 at 6:27 am
Looks like "Alchies" have a problem with "druggies"...and hypocrisy.
I guarantee you that the majority of threat to human life aggressively sped by the concert on 101.
At least we know who WANTS to pay more taxes for keeping a 22 yo pot smoker in jail for the next 5 years.
Sigh. I'm glad to see the majority here have common sense in mind and soon the "Old guard" will die off. Change happens slowly, over generations. The "Archaics" will soon be underground and a more enlightened society will prevail.
Posted by Jonathan, a resident of the Whisman Station neighborhood, on Oct 16, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Forget drugs, the real danger to society is candy.
"The research was led by Simon Moore, a senior lecturer in Violence and Society Research at Cardiff University in the U.K., who specializes in the study of vulnerable youngsters. Moore had been investigating the factors that lead children to commit serious crimes, when, during the course of his work, he discovered that "kids with the worst problems tend to be impulsive risk takers, and that these kids had terrible diets - breakfast was a Coke and a bag of chips," he says."
"Intrigued by this association, Moore turned to the British Cohort Study, a long-term survey of 17,000 people born during a one-week period in April 1970. That study included periodic evaluations of many different aspects of the growing children's lives, such as what they ate, certain health measures and socioeconomic status. Moore plumbed the data for information on kids' diet and their later behavior: at age 10, the children were asked how much candy they consumed, and at age 34, they were questioned about whether they had been convicted of a crime. Moore's analysis suggests a correlation: 69% of people who had been convicted of a violent act by age 34 reported eating candy almost every day as youngsters"
Posted by g. man Cobb, a resident of another community, on Oct 19, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Gee lets spend the counties money, the cities money, the states money and the countries money on busting these huge drug dealing kids going to rock concerts to get high....lets lock them up and throw away the key guys....it will protect the rest of us forever.........