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Shooting victims found inside MV dry cleaners

Original post made on May 14, 2010

The bodies of two shooting victims were found inside a Mountain View dry cleaning business the morning of Friday, May 14, police said.


Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, May 14, 2010, 4:07 PM

Comments (29)

Posted by Arpaio, a resident of Cuernavaca
on May 14, 2010 at 7:10 pm

No description of victims? Political correctness gone amok. Using inductive logic, the victims were either "Mexican-Americans" or "African-Americans", or some other sort of "hyphenated-Americans".


Posted by schoolrocks, a resident of Rex Manor
on May 14, 2010 at 8:05 pm

so you're implying that only minorities die in that neighborhood?


Posted by MV Resident, a resident of Shoreline West
on May 14, 2010 at 9:26 pm

It doesn't matter what their ethnic background was they're still human.


Posted by The Eye, a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 14, 2010 at 9:51 pm

"Using inductive logic, the victims were either "Mexican-Americans" or "African-Americans", or some other sort of "hyphenated-Americans"."

Using *deductive* logic, I think you can stop right there at "Mexican-Americans", due to the vast majority of the demographic in that area (and level of common criminality as shown by years of evidence), but even that is not certain, as we don't really know if they were legal citizens, now do we?


Posted by Della, a resident of North Whisman
on May 14, 2010 at 10:41 pm

Male and Female is the visually obvious description. The bodies have not yet been officially identified, so their names and ethnic backgrounds have been omitted.

Arapio and the Eye, since you both seem to prefer speculative journalism to facts, why not make your own story and tell the police what really happened?


Posted by Billy, a resident of another community
on May 14, 2010 at 11:47 pm

Relax Della...they are just playing the odds....


Posted by wow, a resident of Cuesta Park
on May 15, 2010 at 1:39 am

This is so sad. I really hope that it's not the owners.. who are an older ASIAN couple. I have been going to Vogue cleaners for YEARS and obviously would never expect anything like this to happen. Please people, refrain from talking crap. Regardless of what happened, two human beings lost their lives. It's really sad and since NO ONE knows the full story yet, there is really no reason to make up your own story.

Rest in peace to the two individuals who have passed.


Posted by wow, a resident of Cuesta Park
on May 15, 2010 at 1:39 am

This is so sad. I really hope that it's not the owners.. who are an older ASIAN couple. I have been going to Vogue cleaners for YEARS and obviously would never expect anything like this to happen. Please people, refrain from talking crap. Regardless of what happened, two human beings lost their lives. It's really sad and since NO ONE knows the full story yet, there is really no reason to make up your own story.

Rest in peace to the two individuals who have passed.


Posted by Dave, a resident of Shoreline West
on May 15, 2010 at 2:09 am

Yes, the couple running that store are an older Asian couple...not only that, they do a HUGE amount of business with MVPD........if you were to go in you'd see dozens of MVPD uniforms hung up inside.


Posted by The Truth, a resident of Whisman Station
on May 15, 2010 at 7:28 am

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Posted by Arpaio, a resident of Cuernavaca
on May 15, 2010 at 9:05 am

I am just saying that some people are not listed only because of their ethnic/nationality background. It is interesting to read headlines like
"Anglo suspect arrested for burglary" which assumes that all white people are Anglo-Saxon and "White male suspect arrested for burglary" when a white person is arrested. When "protected minorities" are arrested, the names and ethnic/nationality are not listed.


Posted by Saddened, a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 15, 2010 at 9:36 am

I am so saddened. I have been a customer for years and years and Joe and his wife were always friendly.


Posted by John the Man, a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 15, 2010 at 10:55 am

Ironically, a lot of MV cops use that dry cleaners for their uniforms. You'll see them there fairly often.


Posted by Old Joe, a resident of Cuernavaca
on May 15, 2010 at 12:46 pm

So now everyone is spinning the rumor that it was the Asian owners. You are all insensitive .


Posted by wow, a resident of Cuesta Park
on May 15, 2010 at 1:19 pm

I am not "spinning [a] rumor that it was the Asian owners". I live a couple of blocks away and have heard from people that were close to the shop owners that it was in fact the two owners. Also, this was written in the san jose merc:

Police released few details about the crime and said it is unclear whether it was a double homicide or a murder-suicide. People at nearby businesses, though, said they had heard the deceased were the divorced owners of the dry cleaning shop, and that the ex-husband had shot his ex-wife before turning the gun on himself.


Posted by Helmit, a resident of another community
on May 15, 2010 at 1:31 pm

I was sent this by a friend that has been a MV resident for a long time. This was a shock to him and a concern...not a crime like breaking into a car or simple stuff. I live in urban Philadelphia where this happens too frequently and much worse. Those of you that are dwelling on the irony or racial/prejudice behavior or getting angered by the unimportant details that take you away from the reality of such a tragic loss of life, Shame on you...mourn and watch your neighborhood and make it so it doesn't happened again.......


Posted by Helmit, a resident of another community
on May 15, 2010 at 1:31 pm

I was sent this by a friend that has been a MV resident for a long time. This was a shock to him and a concern...not a crime like breaking into a car or simple stuff. I live in urban Philadelphia where this happens too frequently and much worse. Those of you that are dwelling on the irony or racial/prejudice behavior or getting angered by the unimportant details that take you away from the reality of such a tragic loss of life, Shame on you...mourn and watch your neighborhood and make it so it doesn't happened again.......


Posted by wow, a resident of Cuesta Park
on May 15, 2010 at 1:33 pm

actually you all should just read this article.. it clears up a lot..


Web Link


Posted by MV Mom, a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 15, 2010 at 1:52 pm

Wow, what a terrible tragedy. Such sad news. We've been long time customers, first at Vogue Cleaners and then at Calderon Cleaners when we moved close to that side of town. The wife always pulled a treat out from under the counter for our kids.


Posted by USA, a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 15, 2010 at 6:19 pm

USA is a registered user.

That's terrible.

Rest in peace.


Posted by dutch haven dude, a resident of Waverly Park
on May 16, 2010 at 9:41 am

To those that use the opportunity to use this and similar blog-type venues to sound off to your heart's content without having to worry that you might be identified, it is truly sad, but, knowing your pettiness and small mindedness, no surprise. These were very nice people, obviously not without their problems, but still, with children and people that loved them. I find it difficult to comprehend why I am wasting time writing this, but, just this one time, felt I needed to.


Posted by Someone who knew them, a resident of Cuesta Park
on May 16, 2010 at 10:55 am

but keep in mind that although I knew Joe, he still is a murderer

yes it's sad...I have my problems....I don't murder

may they RIP


Posted by Neighbor, a resident of Shoreline West
on May 17, 2010 at 9:12 am

To ignorant "Eye"
I have owned the type of business in that neighborhood that you would think would be robbed quite often. In almost 20 yrs. here we have NEVER ONCE been threatened in anyway in this area, with as you say "level of common criminality as shown by years of evidence". I wonder where you get your evidence from? I'm here everyday and haven't seen it first hand. I hear that the banks downtown get robbed quite often, maybe it's the "level of common criminality as shown by years of evidence" that live around there.

They were my neighbors and well liked. Her Bible sits on the table next to the window where she read it every afternoon when I pulled up to park my car and waved at her.


Posted by WORRIED, a resident of Old Mountain View
on May 17, 2010 at 9:26 am

WOW... I am ashamed and embarrassed to know that I live in an area surrounded by so many ignorant ppl.



RIP.


Posted by Andrea Gemmet, Mountain View Voice Editor
on May 17, 2010 at 10:28 am

Andrea Gemmet is a registered user.

For the record, the Mountain View Voice wouldn't list a person's race or ethnicity in a news story, just as we wouldn't include information about the color of person's eyes or size of his shoes, unless that information is somehow relevant to the story.

In most cases, it is not.


Posted by Ron, a resident of Waverly Park
on May 17, 2010 at 2:36 pm

So, using 'deductive logic' or 'inductive logic' or whatever else "the eye" and "arpaio" use in place of actual intelligence, they are simply racist and completely WRONG in their deductions. Reasoning FAIL.


Posted by parent, a resident of Waverly Park
on May 17, 2010 at 5:40 pm

Regarding the comments above about "the neighborhood" please keep in mind that crime is not limited to one part of town. The bank (that used to be Downey Savings) on Grant and Martens was robbed a few times, and there was a murder at the (now closed) Blockbuster on Grant near El Camino.

My condolences to the family.


Posted by Dr. Collateral, a resident of Cuesta Park
on May 17, 2010 at 5:52 pm

Dr. Collateral is a registered user.

I await responses from Arpaio and The Eye on their knee-jerk identification of the victims given the update that the victims were the Asian-American owners.

[crickets...]


Posted by SAD, a resident of Cuesta Park
on May 17, 2010 at 8:28 pm

Murder and then suicide....sad. Just off yourself if you're that messed up. No reason to cause so much hurt to the family and community. Better yet....go seek help and move on with live.


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