Two shot, one dead after Thursday night mayhem Schools & Kids, posted by Editor, Mountain View Voice Online, on Feb 8, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Two possibly related shootings in the Old Mountain View area Thursday night left one person mysteriously and fatally shot in a crashed SUV on El Camino Real and another stumbling into a local hospital minutes later with gunshot wounds.
Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, February 8, 2008, 12:36 PM
Posted by RS, a resident of the Cuesta Park neighborhood, on Feb 11, 2008 at 7:23 am
Jeff, whoever did this to you will burn and rot in hell.Such a senseless
killing. I know that you were getting into some deep crap, and I know by getting into this you were sort of asking for it but YOU DID NOT DESERVE THIS.I hope we bring your family some justice, and I pray to god to rest your soul. I am so sorry to hear you leave us behind, but your still in our hearts always and forever.If anyone knows any information please BE A REAL PERSON with a heart and provide the information we need to solve this.Love you always.
Posted by NB, a resident of the Shoreline West neighborhood, on Feb 11, 2008 at 8:36 pm
[Portion removed by Mountain View Voice staff.] Jeff was a good guy, I know he had some problems, but he was a good guy and he never did anyone no harm. It's just a horrible, senseless, stupid tragedy that I hope never happens again. Have some heart people! No body is perfect! I don't care what he did, he didn't deserve to die like that. Love to all the family and friends...
Posted by Cynthia, a resident of the Whisman Station neighborhood, on Feb 12, 2008 at 6:45 am
Mountain View has been my "hometown" for several years now. My children went to school with Jeff. Our neighbor's three young boys were in one of the two vehicles involved in the accident. Thankfully they are okay. Rather than blame our police, our teachers, and yes, even his parents (as some have cruelly done) I believe each one of us need to look deep into our hearts. Each one of us can make a difference in our community. We all need to start reaching out to our young people in Mountain View and give them reason to believe they have a future here. My prayers go out to Jeff's family, friends and loved ones. Godspeed Jeff!
Posted by unknown, a resident of the Shoreline West neighborhood, on Feb 12, 2008 at 9:08 am
Jeff i love you and i dont want to believe that this has happened to you still. I miss you everyday and your always in my thoughts. I still hear your voice in my head and you were loved by many. You didnt deserve what happened to you and i can only hope that justice is brought and if for some reason it isnt then i hope Karma steps in for you. I love you buddy.
Posted by AJ, a resident of the Whisman Station neighborhood, on Feb 12, 2008 at 9:34 am
I knew him personally, the man was a great friend and its terrible he had to go out this way. I hope the shooters are caught but that can't bring him back, there is no way to right that wrong. RIP Jeff Johnson, see you at the service kid.
Posted by Enough!, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 12, 2008 at 11:33 am
A possible gang-related shooting in Mountain View? I can't believe it. How many homicides does this make in the past 12, 24, and 36 months Wasn't another young man stabbed to death only recently? Or is that the DeWitt case? The city council needs to stop worrying about how to define "walkability" in the community and perhaps focus on survivability.
Posted by AR, a resident of another community, on Feb 13, 2008 at 2:48 am
with the loss of this great friend we have also gained an angel. watch over us.. we need angels now. my condolences, love, and support go out to your family and friends. you were an amazing person with a sense of humor that will never be forgotten. you'll always have a special place in our hearts.. rest in peace jeff. we love you.
Posted by Greg & Patti Johnson, a resident of another community, on Feb 13, 2008 at 11:35 am
Jeff's Dad (Skip Johnson) is my brother. Having heard what happened has just broken our hearts. Our love and prayers go out to Skip, Ann, and Jeff's younger brother, Brett. No one should have to suffer the pain of losing there child. I only hope that the community down there will reach out to the family and offer their support and share all the good times that they had with Jeff. There is someone down there that knows who did this terrible act and I appeal to you to step up and let the police know what you know. Skip, brother, our hearts are hurting badly for you and Ann and Brett, just know that our prayers and our love go out to you. Patti and I will see you guys on friday.
Posted by Liz, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 13, 2008 at 2:55 pm
As a long resident of Mountain View I never thought this would happen so close to my home. What a terrible thing for a parent to loose there child in such a horrible way. This young man did not deserve to die like this. I hope they catch these people who did this and lock them up. My thoughts and prayers are with his family. We are no longer safe in our little town of Mountain View times are changing.
Posted by curious, a resident of the Whisman Station neighborhood, on Feb 14, 2008 at 11:49 am
It's a sad day when a tragedy occurs. My heart goes out to the Johnson family and hope they find a positive way to manage their grief. Although I have to agree with the notion that this kid wasn't as squeaky clean as some want to paint him. Of course, he didn't need to perish, but every action has a reaction. I certainly don't agree with the MV Voice staff taking it upon themselves to censure comments on this board. Whether you may like it or not, there are many facets to how the public will respond to this situation.
As for this young man's friend's, remember... "Buy The Ticket, Take The Ride."
Posted by Ellen, a resident of the North Whisman neighborhood, on Feb 14, 2008 at 12:06 pm
I agree with the Voice; removing the mean-spirited comments left by those with insensitive hearts was the right thing to do. Can any one of you imagine losing your son to such a violent act? Please, all of you who feel the need to judge Jeff, remember he was barely a man, just twenty years old. Two years ago he was in high school. We have all made choices we regret and we do not know the FACTS, so please don't add to the pain and grief of this young man's family. Please give his family the love and support our community is capable of. Thank you MV Voice for removing those comments!
Posted by Enough!, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 14, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Censorship of a comment that used no offensive language was wrong. If the Voice starts down this road, then it had better start looking hard at all posts, particularly the vicious ones attacking Ms. Sivyer-Lee. This is the second time a young man has been caught up in violence in the space of a few weeks. The comment needed to be made.
Posted by LFHolden, a resident of another community, on Feb 14, 2008 at 6:37 pm
I had the opportunity to meet Jeff when he was a boy--full of life, love and adventure. He taught my son how to skateboard, with his expertise and patience. Watching Jeff and his brother, Brett, grow up was fascinating; I could track where my kids were going to be in 12 years. This is a tragedy. Our prayers are with you--Skip, Ann and Brett. You are an amazing family, as you have always been.
Posted by Cindy, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 15, 2008 at 9:08 am
Enough! I pray you never experience the loss of a loved one in such a violent way, but if you ever do, I pray you do not have to read comments made by those who have no facts to base their comments on and only want to hurt those who have already suffered the loss of their son. Jeff was "caught up" in violence, shot and killed, which has nothing to do with the Ms. Sivyer-Lee comments made. He was unarmed and left to die alone, age twenty. Why don't you join us all at Jeff's funeral Mass today and look his parents in the eye, then tell me how similar this case is to gossip-mongers and hate speakers in our community. I'm ashamed there are so many insensitive people in our town!
Posted by Enough!, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 15, 2008 at 10:24 am
If you think going into the cybersphere to grieve approaches being normal, then I feel sorry for you. This is a newspaper forum, nothing more, nothing less. If one of my children was a victim of such crime, I sure wouldn't be online here trying to get some meaning out of it. I would want to become an advocate for other families to learn any possible lesson here. Of course I sympathize with the victim's family, and how I do is really not your concern or privy to your judgement and really not even up to the family as insensitive as it may sound. Again, this is newspaper forum. And if the editor choses to delete my entry anyway, then I guess you'll be happy living in a world of thought control. The internet is about free speech. Let's keep it that way.
Posted by Liz, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 15, 2008 at 10:34 am
I want to thank the Mountain View Voice for taking off any negative postings. This should not be site for bashing of this young man. This young man had a family who loved him and was shot and left to die. Who ever posted the mean comments should be ashamed. Yes he had problems, but that does not give anyone the right to kill him. This family needs support and prayers not to have there sons named bashed.
Posted by doc, a resident of another community, on Feb 15, 2008 at 6:30 pm
I want to apologize if I hurt anybody’s feelings or offended anyone with my previous posting. I certainly did not mean to do so and am terribly sorry if it came off as such. I was not trying to be insensitive and bash Jeff or his family. On the contrary, my heart and my condolences go out to them in this terrible time of grief.
My previous posting was more specifically meant for RS and NB, presumably friends or at least acquaintances of Jeff, who in their postings near the top of the page talked about how much they cared for and loved him. They also talked about how Jeff “had some problems”, was “getting into some deep crap”, and how he was “sort of asking for it”.
The point I was trying to get across was that since RS and NB supposedly knew about Jeff’s troubles I wish they would have done something to help him out before it was too late. It still may not have helped but it’s certainly better than not trying which definitely doesn’t help. I was obviously not directing my posting to Jeff’s family or anyone else who may not have been privy to any of his supposed troubles.
I also meant my previous posting as a generalization for all of us. We all know people we care for who are troubled – people who drink too much, or do drugs, or hang around with the wrong crowd, or cheat on their spouses, etc. If you truly care for them, talk to them and try to make a difference before it’s too late; because, sadly, as we’ve seen in recent events, “too late” can mean tragedy.
I didn’t know Jeff. I don’t know his friends or family. I don’t know what exactly happened to Jeff. It may not even have anything to do with his supposed troubles. I truly hope that it turns out that he was just in the wrong place, at the wrong time. Maybe we’ll find out from the police investigation. Either way, I think my generalization is still a valid one though, which is: if you sense that someone, especially someone you care for, is troubled, try to do something to help, before it’s too late.
Again, I apologize if I hurt anyone with my previous posting. I hope that this clears up any misunderstanding with both the readers of the Voice and its staff.
Posted by TA, a resident of another community, on Feb 15, 2008 at 7:35 pm
I was at the service today. The incredible love his family and friends obviously shared with this man was truly encouraging. I hope his friends take a piece of that light with them...he is a part of you. I hope they take a part of the tragic memory of his death and make it a beacon for making the right decisions in the future about how to live. I hope you continue to hope and believe in your future...make it the way he wanted...be positive and be brave. Make it so with the fresh memory of his smile and friendship. That will make sense for his parents, family, friends and allow the circle of faith to embrace you and be able to forgive Jeff for leaving so quickly without a second chance to say I love you. Just like Jeff's father said today, tell the people you care today..that you care. Moments become the past too fast otherwise.
Posted by PR, a resident of the Cuesta Park neighborhood, on Feb 15, 2008 at 9:46 pm
So sudden...so tragic...so senseless...the loss of such a kind, wonderful young man. Skip, Ann, and Brett, our heartfelt prayers are extended to you. I'll miss his friendly nod of the head and quick wave hello whenever he'd hop in his vehicle to go to school, visit friends, etc. Please know that all your neighbors are here to support you in this time of grief.
Posted by Cindy, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 16, 2008 at 11:29 am
Enough! You missed my point entirely. I am very sorry your heart is filled with such bitterness. My point wasn't to express my own grief, but to plead with our community to reach out to Jeff's family, not speculate on why their son was killed. I do believe in free speech and welcome your misdirected anger. It is easy to condemn and criticize others, using a name that isn't yours.
Posted by Observer, a resident of the North Whisman neighborhood, on Feb 16, 2008 at 1:26 pm
If you're so concerned with the victim's family, why engage? Quit preaching and move on. For some people this was also a story about a drive-by shooting in Mountain View which resulted in one dead, one injured, and the criminals still at large and no doubt emboldened. Where's the discussion on how to stop this type of event from occurring again? BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I know a lot of people who are very uncomfortable with the rise of violence in this city. IF the tragedy was a result of the victim's own actions, as some have suggested above (NOT ME), how will all this pointless back and forth help anyone? Consider this: some are interested in the crime prevention side of this article as well, and want to feel safe when they step outside their door. And this does not mean they have no sympathy for the victim, so don't go reading between the lines. As far as I can tell, this is the place to post comments regarding the events and circumstances surrounding the crime as described in the orginal article as well, under any member name, anonymous or not, that one chooses, and not exclusively the place to eulogize the victim. I'd have to agree with Enough! on the point that this is a really not an appropriate place to grieve and express condolences. If you think it is, fine, just don't go on the attack when other posters react or just want to comment on the story as a whole. Unless of course you like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
Posted by Cindy, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 16, 2008 at 5:47 pm
thank you Observer, or perhaps Enough! for putting me in my place. I forgot, this was all about the Sivyer-Lee slander and so forth. Not about a dead boy on Ehrhorn and El Camino. So much for defending a family who lost there son.
Posted by Accepting., a resident of the Rex Manor neighborhood, on Feb 17, 2008 at 7:30 pm
About the comments from Wake Up!! What do you racist comments have to do with the senseless and tragic death of this young man? This is an editorial page not a bigoted-race hating page. Stick to the topics. Also, where did you go to school? You're grammar and thoughts are very careless. If those are your views and you are so proud of them ? Why not sign your name and not hide behind a false title. In case you failed California History- you are standing in what use to be Mexico until the war and it was taken. I am a proud Mexican American who also had ancestors who were Native Americans so I am home. I firmly believe you and you're hatred view are what is wrong with this country. We need to be more tolerant and accepting of our "neighbors" because one of these days you may need an emergency room physician and I may not want to treat you and save your worthless life.
Posted by Enough!, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 17, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Sorry, you're both wrong and you both must have failed Californian History. And sure Wake Up needs to work on his writing, but I counted several errors in your prose as well. However, I'm even more shocked that a supposed emergency room physician would make such a statement contrary to the Hippocratic oath.
Californian history is really not that simple. When Mexico acheived independence from Spain in 1824, lower and upper California were only loosely controlled by the Spanish crown and fraught with internecine post-colonial power struggles. True, the mission system existed and land grants were made to mostly mestizo Spaniards (Spaniards born in Mexico), but these were largely pro-Spanish corporate conservative groups that would have preferred the reinstatement of the Spanish crown, not an independent state with the capital in Mexico City. In other words, they hardly fit into the neat box of Mexican nationals and nationalism, which in the early part of the nineteenth century were nowhere near unified. In fact, what we call Mexico today actually experienced a Federation as did this country in its early history. Only under the off-and-on dictatorship of Santa Anna could the country be held together, and it was he who basically gave away the farm to the US. He was a realist and understood that the modern state of Mexico could in no way control the vast territories of the former Spanish crown that extended far into current day US. The real owners, and majority of occupants of the land Dr. Accepting calls Mexico and the Mexican-hater calls the US, were the original native Indians, and the Mexican government tried its best to exterminate them, as did the US afterward. In short, Mexico lost control of California, and other parts of the Southwest and Texas, because it never really held or occupied it firmly enough. The whole controvery goes back to the Pope's Treaty of Tordesillas of 1492, and subsequent legal questions of under what criteria does one nation really claim title or ownership to a land. Point is: we all can stay here, the only ones that truly belong are the native Americans, but I'm sure their ancestors kicked out some other people at some other time along the way. So I guess we'd better all figure out how to get along.
Posted by Curious, a resident of the Monta Loma neighborhood, on Feb 18, 2008 at 8:14 am
Maybe since this Enough! person doesn't have a life or a soapbox to preach on...he should get a job at the Voice because he sure can copy facts then maybe there will be no need for grieving moms to get the stories corrected.
Posted by Enough!, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 18, 2008 at 8:20 am
You obviously have a complex surrounding your education or lack thereof. My thoughts on Californian history are 100% mine and synthesized from years of reading and writing--skills development you obviously abandoned years ago. I suppose originality of thought is something foreign to you. How about notching up your arguments from mere rhetoric to thoughtful analysis of a problem.
Posted by Greg & Patti Johnson, a resident of another community, on Feb 18, 2008 at 8:46 am
Please stop. How is all this honoring my nephew Jeffery. Who cares who owned California. Take your hate speech some where else, "wake up". We do not need that here. Please use this space for what it was put here for, to comment on the story of a young man who lost his life. It is not helping my family to read the junk that some of you are posting. So I plead with you please,please stop this now. Thank you, Greg and Patti Johnson
Posted by Enough!, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 18, 2008 at 8:46 am
It's pretty pathetic if you think someone has to copy something out of a book to say something of any worth. Ignorance piled upon ignorance regarding racism and Californian history (as evidenced by the above posts by Wake Up and Accepting) only fuels more ignorance. The issues surrounding racism, gang violence, and poverty in Mountain need to be approached from an anthropological, sociological, and historical point of view. Go to the library and read up on these issues. Most people couldn't be bothered. Ignorance and base appeals to emotion prevail. In the long run, this will get us nowhere. Racists attitudes will continue to proliferate. Violence will likely occur again.
Posted by Middle school peer of Jeff's, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 18, 2008 at 11:16 pm
It's great to hear that progress is being made in this case. Although the Johnson family's wounds will never fully heal, hopefully getting those people in jail will help them feel a little bit better. My best wishes and prayers are extended to all of Jeff's friends and family.
(offtopic: Why isn't Gemello listed under the Neighborhood Communities even though it is on the "Not sure" link? Just looks like that line of coding got emitted somehow. Oh well, we love MV so much we have another house in Old Mountain View!)
Posted by Liz, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 19, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Thanks for letting me know the status of the case. This won't bring Jeff back to his family, but it might save another family from having a child killed. Who ever did this does not have respect for human life.
Posted by RS, a resident of the Cuesta Park neighborhood, on Feb 19, 2008 at 12:42 pm
I have something to say to "doc", I read what you had to say about my posting and "nb". I can't believe that you have the nerve to try to tell me, someone who Knew Jeff pretty damn well, that i should have talked to him. A person will do what they do. How do you know whether or not I tried to talk to jeff about his problems. YOU have NO RIGHT to assume anything! It makes me furious to know that you have been posting things that in any way have offended, jeff's family and friends. I think you should climb back in your hole and stay there. I was a great friend to jeff as he was to me, and many many many others, he might have had problems but WHO DOESN"T?Mountain view is a nice community obviously his issues were out thier for his close friends to see but not out there enough to realize how seriously dangerous it was. [Portion removed by Mountain View Voice staff.]
Posted by Laurie, a resident of the North Whisman neighborhood, on Feb 19, 2008 at 4:14 pm
As a mother of three children, two of whom went to school with Jeff, I can only imagine what his family is going through. My kids have fond memories of Jeff. He was especially kind to my son who has a severe speech impediment. My prayers are with you all. I only wish there was more we could do. I hope knowing there are many in our community who would do anything to take your pain away helps in some small way. I am very thankful Jeff's relatives are speaking for the family. God Bless you all for standing together! Even our youngest son (age 8) is praying for you!
Posted by C-Nile, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Feb 19, 2008 at 4:37 pm
I live a few houses away from where this incident happened so I ended up online for more information. Reading over the posts it seems that every other post is about what someone feels someone else should do and how it was Jeff that brought this upon himself. It's all a little ridiculous. Walk down an Old Mountain View street in the evening sometime. Take note of how many houses show signs of life. For the monitor-jockeys that prefer viewing the world through an LCD, the answer is very few. Granted, I'm no expert, but a community with a lack of witnesses sounds like an ideal locale for illicit activities.
Maybe the path to reducing crime in our backyard is being present in our front yards?
Posted by doc, a resident of another community, on Feb 26, 2008 at 12:26 pm
"...Mountain View resident Jeffrey Johnson... was shot to death earlier this month in what police believe was a drug deal gone bad."
"Police believe Johnson and three acquaintances, driving two separate vehicles, gathered on Ehrhorn to meet with at least three suspects -- previously described only as Hispanic men in their 20s -- to buy drugs."
Posted by Observer, a resident of the Whisman Station neighborhood, on Feb 26, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Header for this week's Voice: White Boy Buying Drugs Killed by Hispanic Gang, or School District says There are No Gangs, or Drugs in Schools, or how about Parents on Both Sides Insist their Children were Basically Good Kids... bla, bla, bla... there's no one to blame--certainly not the parents--it's everyone's fault (but watch out because your children might be next), now where did I put that joint?
Posted by SPOOKY, a resident of the Cuesta Park neighborhood, on Feb 27, 2008 at 6:33 am
All I have to say is I have seen a few Hells Angels trying to start a clubhouse here in Mountain View and its about damn time cause once they show up in neighborhoods all illegal activity stops!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Observer, a resident of the North Whisman neighborhood, on Feb 27, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Tragically ironic... only a few hours after my last post, yet another young man is gunned down in the streets of Mountain View. I just hope this last one had nothing to do with Jeffery Johnson's drug dealing. I sure don't feel like being caught in the middle of two gangs battling over turf to sell drugs.
Posted by Patrick T, a resident of another community, on Jan 10, 2010 at 11:03 pm
I've thought about you a lot ever since I heard what happened. I am sorry I was not able to make it to your service, but I did not hear what had happened until a month later. I know we lost touch for the most part after highschool, but just wanted to say that you were a good guy, and a better friend. I can still remember the class trip we took together in D.C. and hanging out with You, Craig, and Timmy. Life was simple, fun, and full of good times. I have lost touch with almost everyone I knew during highschool including you, but even so I would still consider you a good friend. I'm sorry for what transpired, but know you are in a better place. My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family. Love you Jeff, and you will be missed.