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We must be careful about HSR

Original post made by Kevin Crispie, Blossom Valley, on Aug 9, 2009

HSR is an infrastructure project and the private sector industry that has been hit particularly hard is construction. Building HSR in California would immediately increase jobs and reboot our economy. Jobs would be created operating the system, but we would lose a lot of construction jobs when it's over. I do agree the ridership estimates are a bit high, but once a system is available, more people will use it. People wouldn't want to go to LA before, but when the option is open, it's possible a lot more people would travel back and forth between hear and SoCal.

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Posted by Bob Jenkins
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Aug 9, 2009 at 8:54 am

oh, another misspelling, actually, it kind of makes it more visible

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Posted by Mike Laursen
a resident of Monta Loma
on Aug 9, 2009 at 7:21 pm

Kevin, why do you think any more people would travel between the L.A. area and the San Francisco Bay Area than today? There are plenty of affordable ways to get back and forth between the two areas right now.

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Posted by Bianca
a resident of another community
on Aug 11, 2009 at 11:39 am

"There are plenty of affordable ways to get back and forth between the two areas right now."

Right now, yes. And when oil goes back up to $150/barrel, then what?

20 years from now, California will have another 15 or 20 million people than it has today. How well do you think the freeways are going to work to drive between SF and LA? We can't expand SF, OAK or San Jose airports. No room. Airport capacity is going to be a serious issue. There are over 300 flights a day between the Bay Area and the LA area. Expending the fuel required to get a plane five miles up in the air, and then fly only 250 or 300 miles before landing, is incredibly wasteful and inefficient.

HSR isn't about right now. It's about planning ahead so that things work in the future. Just because oil is cheap now doesn't mean it will be that way forever.

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Posted by Jerry Talley
a resident of North Whisman
on Aug 11, 2009 at 2:42 pm

I agree with the sentiment that HSR is a long-range plan. Europe is way ahead of the US in using HSR systems. And the east coast is way ahead of the west coast! It's time we tried to catch up. With future population increases and oil price increases we will need an expanded mix of transportation options. What works well today is almost certainly going to be woefully inadequate in 20 years. This is a choice we make more for the next generation than for our own.

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Posted by John
a resident of Shoreline West
on Aug 12, 2009 at 11:45 am

Seems to me the HSR isn't about getting "from SF to LA", but about opening up more of the Central Valley to development. Where do you think those "15 or 20 million" additional folks are going to live--not in SF! Taxpayers should consider whether this is the best use of our money--instead of schools, parks, and social services. Thanks, but I'd prefer education for our kids over the few temporary construction jobs, and windfall profits for contractors, that this boondoggle represents.