Immigration forum seeks to allay fears
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on Jun 8, 2007
As the nation continues to debate its immigration laws, a handful of Spanish-speaking Mountain View residents came to St. Joseph church last weekend to learn more about the issue, and were given advice by local officials on how to deal with federal immigration agents.
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Posted by Larry
a resident of The Crossings
on Jun 8, 2007 at 9:39 pm
IMPORTING A SLAVE CLASS
By Ann Coulter
May 23, 2007
We either have to deport all the illegal aliens immediately or we must grant amnesty to all illegal aliens. Some would have us believe that because we can't deport them all, the only alternative is too grant them amnesty. There is no middle ground.
Should we stop enforcing laws because we can't catch all the people who break them?
We also can't catch all thieves, people who drive over the speed limit, burglars, rapists, murderers, etc., so why don't we grant amnesty to all of these people? What we need is "comprehensive crime reform". We need to know who these people are and then these people will be able to stop living in the shadows. We can then make them pay a fine. This will not be amnesty.
Apparently, my position on immigration is that we must deport all 12 million illegal aliens immediately, inasmuch as this is billed as the only alternative to immediate amnesty. The jejune fact that we "can't deport them all" is supposed to lead ineluctably to the conclusion that we must grant amnesty to illegal aliens and fast!
I'm astounded that debate has sunk so low that I need to type the following words, but: No law is ever enforced 100 percent.
We can't catch all rapists, so why not grant amnesty to rapists? Surely no one wants thousands of rapists living in the shadows! How about discrimination laws? Insider trading laws? Do you expect Bush to round up everyone who goes over the speed limit? Of course we can't do that. We can't even catch all murderers. What we need is "comprehensive murder reform." It's not "amnesty" we'll ask them to pay a small fine.
If it's "impossible" to deport illegal aliens, how did we come to have so much specific information about them? I keep hearing they are Catholic, pro-life, hardworking, just dying to become American citizens, and will take jobs other Americans won't. Someone must have talked to them to gather all this information. Let's find that guy he must know where they are!
How do we even know there are 12 million of them? Why not 3 million, or 40 million? Maybe we should put the guy who counted them in charge of deporting them.
If the 12-million figure is an extrapolation based on the number of illegal immigrants in public schools or emergency rooms and well-manicured lawns in Brentwood, then shouldn't we be looking for them at schools and hospitals and well-manicured lawns in Brentwood?
I believe that the shortage of unskilled, non-English-speaking Mexicans we experienced in the '60s has been remedied by now.
Since Teddy Kennedy's 1965 Immigration Act, more than half of all legal immigrants have been unskilled, non-English-speaking Mexicans. America takes in roughly 1 million legal immigrants each year. Only about 30,000 of them have Ph.D.s. Why on earth would any rational immigration policy discriminate against immigrants with Ph.D.s in favor of unskilled, non-English-speaking immigrants?
Say, don't Ph.D.s and other skilled workers have more influence on government policy than unskilled workers? Aren't they more likely to bend a president's ear? Yes, I believe they are! Noticeably, the biggest proponents of the government's policy of importing a huge underclass of unskilled workers are not themselves unskilled workers.
The great bounty of cheap labor by unskilled immigrants isn't going to hardworking Americans who hang drywall or clean hotel rooms and who are having trouble getting jobs, now that they're forced to compete with the vast influx of unskilled workers who don't pay taxes.
The people who make arguments about "jobs Americans won't do" are never in a line of work where unskilled immigrants can compete with them. Liberals love to strike generous, humanitarian poses with other people's lives.
Something tells me the immigration debate would be different if we were importing millions of politicians or Hollywood agents. You lose your job, while I keep my job at the Endeavor agency, my Senate seat, my professorship, my editorial position or my presidency. (And I get a maid!)
The only beneficiaries of these famed hardworking immigrants unlike you lazy Americans are the wealthy, who want the cheap labor while making the rest of us chip in for the immigrants' schooling, food and health care.
These great lovers of the downtrodden the downtrodden trimming their hedges pretend to believe that their gardeners' children will be graduating from Harvard and curing cancer someday, but (1) they don't believe that; and (2) if it happened, they'd lose their gardeners.
Not to worry, Marie Antoinettes! According to "Alien Nation" author Peter Brimelow, "There is recent evidence that, even after four generations, fewer than 10 percent of Mexicans have post-high school degrees, as opposed to nearly half of non-Mexican-Americans." So you'll always have the maid. As New York mayor Michael Bloomberg said, our golf fairways would suffer without illegal immigrants: "You and I both play golf; who takes care of the greens and the fairways on your golf course?"
We fought a civil war to force Democrats to give up on slavery 150 years ago. They've become so desperate for servants that now they're importing an underclass to wash their clothes and pick their vegetables. This vast class of unskilled immigrants is the left's new form of slavery.
What do they care if their servants are made citizens eligible to vote and collect government benefits? Aren't the fabulously rich happy in Venezuela? Oops, wrong example. Brazil? No, no, let me try again. Mexico! ... Well, no matter. What could go wrong?
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Posted by Bobby
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Jun 11, 2007 at 8:24 pm
Sorry, Amanda but your arguements are based on faulty premises. For example,job depression does not mean only people getting less working to pick vegetables, hard work, no doubt. By the way, 75% of all agriculture in the U.S. is done by Americans. Here, however, you are trying to get people to believe illegal aliens are "only doing the jobs Americans don't want to do". Where have we heard this before? So on this at least,you agree with President Bush. Bet your not a Republican either. Carpenters, masonry work, drywalling, painting, construction,--all formerly well paying blue collar jobs, that Americans wanted to do, aren't well paying now. It's called wage depression. Maybe this is no great concern with your circumstances. Higher taxes? you say you for one are happy to pay them. Well, I have found that in life people are about as happy as their circumstances allow. Some people are on fixed incomes. They are not happy to pay increased taxes. Some AMERICANS struggling to raise families, are not happy to do it. Perhaps, surprise, they can't afford to be happy about it. Increased crime. I never said I am only applying it to immigrants. I simply said they are adding their share to what we already have, that's why I called it "increased" crime. Also, since so many illegal aliens have several names, it's kind of hard to catch them, like our home grown criminals. Then when they flee to Mexico,for instance, the Mexican government won't send them back to us, Amanda. Foreign culture is something I have no problem with. I speak more than one language. I have traveled, I'd bet, more than you have. However, I have the feeling that I'm not the only American who does'n really like to see the Mexican and other flags, constantly flown in my face, during the Marches--in my country. Can I say that, my country? I'll bet some Americans don't like press one for... I'll bet some Americans don't like to have their childrens educational day cut short by having to learn Spanish, for instance, because certain ethnic lobby groups demand it. Now if you'll notice Amanda, my arguements have been centered around what is good for long time , hardworking, taxpaying American citizens, and other legal residents. Not people who were never invited here in the first place. You see, Mexico for example, won't allow foreign flags to be flown in their schools, they won't allow foreigners to protest on their streets. They won't pay for bilingual education. They won't pay for peoples expenses who are not Mexican citizens, and those aren't straw men speaking, those are the Mexican laws talking. I figure hardworking American citizens, in the United States, are owed as much as the citizens of Mexico.