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More fireworks in the Mountain View Whisman boardroom

In heated exchange, school board member tells superintendent to stop talking and sit down

Things got ugly at the Mountain View Whisman School District's board meeting, when a tense argument between trustee Steve Nelson and the superintendent led to a confrontational back-and-forth over how the district office handles public records requests.

The problem started in April, when Nelson sent the district office an elaborate and complicated public records request for math-related documents going back to 2014. The request yielded 5,000 pages of results, which had to be pruned down to 3,500 pages over three months, taking up between 35 and 40 staff hours, before it was sent to Nelson.

Since receiving the reams of paper, Nelson has come out swinging, calling the district's administration "inept and (in) need of further training on Public Records Act compliance," and calling the massive stack of documents "junk" and mostly useless.

Nelson brought his argument -- and his 2-foot stack of paper -- to the Nov. 4 board meeting, accusing district staff of failing to communicate with him to narrow the request. At the meeting, Nelson accused the district of failing to adhere to state laws requiring it to assist him in making a "focused and effective request."

Superintendent Ayinde Rudolph fired back, arguing that the district's obligation is to fulfill the request, not to interpret what he was looking for, and suggested that Nelson's broad request was the root of the problem. Over 90 percent of the district's Public Records Act requests this year were addressed within two weeks, with the exception of Nelson's.

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Nelson argued that there was no effort on the district's part to try to narrow the request, an assertion that Rudolph contested, sparking a back-and-forth with raised voices on who said what via email, and when it was said. Nelson demanded that Rudolph stop interjecting during his tirade.

"Could you please not interrupt me, Dr. Rudolph, or I'm going to start yelling at you," Nelson said. "Take a seat."

Rudolph remained standing during the heated exchange, and told Nelson not to ask him to sit down as if he were "some kind of second-class citizen."

"I have listened to you question my degree, I have listened to you talk about my kids, and you just told me to take a seat," Rudolph said. "Do not tell me to take a seat. Period."

Board member Jose Gutierrez accused Nelson of being "out of line," shortly before board president Ellen Wheeler called for a break, prompting Rudolph and others to storm out of the board room. Nelson appeared to try to approach Rudolph as he left the room.

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The latest flare-up follows signs that district officials are frustrated with Nelson's records requests. In June, Rudolph said that Nelson had inundated the school district with 55 requests for information in a single month, which he said detracts from the district's ability to address other, serious issues.

Nelson said his public records request in April was for information on middle school math "pathways," and a better understanding of how placement policies would guide students from fifth grade into the district's three middle school math tracks. His request reads as follows:

"Request for emailed materials related to Middle School Math tracks or pathways (Common Core 6th, 7th, 8th and pathway to Geometry in 8th for example). For the time June 2014 to end of February 2016, between the District Office staff and Middle School staff, between the District Office and TOSA working in middle schools. To Middle School math teachers (plural) from Middle School principals (only on math tracks and pathways). [no to: individual teachers, only broadcast to math planning groups etc. Also including math assessments related to choosing middle school math pathways. For the time June 2014 to end of February 2016: Any data spreadsheets at the District Office. Any data spreadsheets at the two Middle Schools. Any correspondence or documents that constitute administration of math pathways (or tracking) policy. FYI: The LASD found that email searches was the best way for them to easily find this material."

For months, Nelson has argued that the Los Altos School District and the Santa Clara County Office of Education were able to fulfill with little difficulty similar PRA requests he made earlier this year. The problem is not his request, he said, it's the Mountain View Whisman district staff 's failure to adhere to the law and help him narrow down the number of "hits" his requests get.

Nelson told the Voice in an email that his requests for public records to other school districts were worded differently than his request to the Mountain View Whisman district.

Confrontation, raised voices and thick tension are hardly new in the district's board room. Last year, board members Greg Coladonato's and Nelson's comments on how to pay for construction management services led to a testy exchange during which the district's construction manager, Todd Lee, stormed out of the room. In June 2015, Nelson stood up and loomed over Wheeler in a confrontational manner during a heated discussion on the school design for Castro Elementary.

Nelson's term on the board ends this year, and he has not sought re-election. His last meeting as a board member is expected to be later this month.

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More fireworks in the Mountain View Whisman boardroom

In heated exchange, school board member tells superintendent to stop talking and sit down

by / Mountain View Voice

Uploaded: Tue, Nov 8, 2016, 11:21 am

Things got ugly at the Mountain View Whisman School District's board meeting, when a tense argument between trustee Steve Nelson and the superintendent led to a confrontational back-and-forth over how the district office handles public records requests.

The problem started in April, when Nelson sent the district office an elaborate and complicated public records request for math-related documents going back to 2014. The request yielded 5,000 pages of results, which had to be pruned down to 3,500 pages over three months, taking up between 35 and 40 staff hours, before it was sent to Nelson.

Since receiving the reams of paper, Nelson has come out swinging, calling the district's administration "inept and (in) need of further training on Public Records Act compliance," and calling the massive stack of documents "junk" and mostly useless.

Nelson brought his argument -- and his 2-foot stack of paper -- to the Nov. 4 board meeting, accusing district staff of failing to communicate with him to narrow the request. At the meeting, Nelson accused the district of failing to adhere to state laws requiring it to assist him in making a "focused and effective request."

Superintendent Ayinde Rudolph fired back, arguing that the district's obligation is to fulfill the request, not to interpret what he was looking for, and suggested that Nelson's broad request was the root of the problem. Over 90 percent of the district's Public Records Act requests this year were addressed within two weeks, with the exception of Nelson's.

Nelson argued that there was no effort on the district's part to try to narrow the request, an assertion that Rudolph contested, sparking a back-and-forth with raised voices on who said what via email, and when it was said. Nelson demanded that Rudolph stop interjecting during his tirade.

"Could you please not interrupt me, Dr. Rudolph, or I'm going to start yelling at you," Nelson said. "Take a seat."

Rudolph remained standing during the heated exchange, and told Nelson not to ask him to sit down as if he were "some kind of second-class citizen."

"I have listened to you question my degree, I have listened to you talk about my kids, and you just told me to take a seat," Rudolph said. "Do not tell me to take a seat. Period."

Board member Jose Gutierrez accused Nelson of being "out of line," shortly before board president Ellen Wheeler called for a break, prompting Rudolph and others to storm out of the board room. Nelson appeared to try to approach Rudolph as he left the room.

The latest flare-up follows signs that district officials are frustrated with Nelson's records requests. In June, Rudolph said that Nelson had inundated the school district with 55 requests for information in a single month, which he said detracts from the district's ability to address other, serious issues.

Nelson said his public records request in April was for information on middle school math "pathways," and a better understanding of how placement policies would guide students from fifth grade into the district's three middle school math tracks. His request reads as follows:

"Request for emailed materials related to Middle School Math tracks or pathways (Common Core 6th, 7th, 8th and pathway to Geometry in 8th for example). For the time June 2014 to end of February 2016, between the District Office staff and Middle School staff, between the District Office and TOSA working in middle schools. To Middle School math teachers (plural) from Middle School principals (only on math tracks and pathways). [no to: individual teachers, only broadcast to math planning groups etc. Also including math assessments related to choosing middle school math pathways. For the time June 2014 to end of February 2016: Any data spreadsheets at the District Office. Any data spreadsheets at the two Middle Schools. Any correspondence or documents that constitute administration of math pathways (or tracking) policy. FYI: The LASD found that email searches was the best way for them to easily find this material."

For months, Nelson has argued that the Los Altos School District and the Santa Clara County Office of Education were able to fulfill with little difficulty similar PRA requests he made earlier this year. The problem is not his request, he said, it's the Mountain View Whisman district staff 's failure to adhere to the law and help him narrow down the number of "hits" his requests get.

Nelson told the Voice in an email that his requests for public records to other school districts were worded differently than his request to the Mountain View Whisman district.

Confrontation, raised voices and thick tension are hardly new in the district's board room. Last year, board members Greg Coladonato's and Nelson's comments on how to pay for construction management services led to a testy exchange during which the district's construction manager, Todd Lee, stormed out of the room. In June 2015, Nelson stood up and loomed over Wheeler in a confrontational manner during a heated discussion on the school design for Castro Elementary.

Nelson's term on the board ends this year, and he has not sought re-election. His last meeting as a board member is expected to be later this month.

Comments

Resign, Nelson!
Waverly Park
on Nov 8, 2016 at 12:46 pm
Resign, Nelson!, Waverly Park
on Nov 8, 2016 at 12:46 pm

"'Could you please not interrupt me, Dr. Rudolph, or I'm going to start yelling at you,' Nelson said."

Wow. What maturity. What a grasp on dealing with other people.

Good riddance, Nelson, you were an embarrassment from the time you took office until now. The Mountain View Whisman School District's board will be MUCH better served without you being a part of it.


Frustrated Parent
Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Nov 8, 2016 at 1:34 pm
Frustrated Parent, Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Nov 8, 2016 at 1:34 pm

Thank goodness this man is almost gone. Nelson is so inappropriate, and such a poor example in our community. Next month can't come soon enough.


Mom
Castro City
on Nov 8, 2016 at 1:40 pm
Mom, Castro City
on Nov 8, 2016 at 1:40 pm

With all due respect Mr. Nelson, I tried to defend you put its been all about YOU. Never about the students .


I Don't Know...
Rex Manor
on Nov 8, 2016 at 2:36 pm
I Don't Know..., Rex Manor
on Nov 8, 2016 at 2:36 pm

Sure...it's easy to say more time could be devoted to our children rather than these public records requests. BUT sometimes you need a Trustee like this to:
1. Get to the matter at hand.
2. Keep long standing groups from controlling the Board.
3. Keep district administrators factual and honest.
You just don't know, what you don't know, until someone like this rocks the boat and asks pertinent questions rather than "rubber stamping" what's put out for public consumption.


Resign, Nelson!
Waverly Park
on Nov 8, 2016 at 2:43 pm
Resign, Nelson!, Waverly Park
on Nov 8, 2016 at 2:43 pm

@I Don't Know...: It's one thing if Nelson were trying to keep the district honest. His frequent records requests, along with his behavior in board meetings, suggest that it's not being a watchdog that Nelson is interested in being; it's about Nelson being an obnoxious jerk, all day, every day.

He will not be missed when his term in office ceases.


Old Steve
Rex Manor
on Nov 8, 2016 at 3:01 pm
Old Steve, Rex Manor
on Nov 8, 2016 at 3:01 pm

I have no problem with any of Trustee Nelson's efforts in the areas noted above @ I don't know. I do know Nelson has no grasp of proper board room behavior, and by my own observation very little self control of his own temper. If you consider the way he has treated district office staff over the course of his term, it would be quite a sacrifice to spend enough time with him to "narrow his request" Since he is about to leave the board, he is welcome to sue the district over future requests he deems inappropriate.

Nelson specifically, as a Trustee or a member of the public, has no business treating the Superintendent in such an angry and condescending manner. "Take a seat!" In many parts of our country, between two similarly situated male adults, would be considered "fighting words" Not worth it, though likely highly entertaining.


Manfred
Waverly Park
on Nov 8, 2016 at 3:14 pm
Manfred, Waverly Park
on Nov 8, 2016 at 3:14 pm

I feel sorry for Nelson. When I spoke with him a couple times he had trouble forming sentences. Is his health flagging? Drinking issues? Stroke?

Let's ask him to take a couple months off starting now.


Curious
another community
on Nov 8, 2016 at 3:30 pm
Curious , another community
on Nov 8, 2016 at 3:30 pm

I'm curious to know what records he requested from LASD and why.


Mt View Neighbor
North Whisman
on Nov 8, 2016 at 7:01 pm
Mt View Neighbor, North Whisman
on Nov 8, 2016 at 7:01 pm

Interesting article. I'm not sure of the overall context and how this sort of behavior is relevant. Seems to me that if records were requested, and required by law if requested, then the issue is disclosure, not whether someone asks someone else to sit down. Seems like a more relevant headline is, "records required by law, still not disclosed".

Am I missing something?


Sick of this
Willowgate
on Nov 8, 2016 at 9:18 pm
Sick of this, Willowgate
on Nov 8, 2016 at 9:18 pm

@Mt View Neighbor

Good question. What you are missing is the fact that his request(s) have been fulfilled and that he is habitually rude and makes the atmosphere just mean and ugly, when you actually hear and see how he says what he says and does what he does.

He wastes people's time both behind the scenes at the school district, and in front of the camera at the board meetings. Really, it's his delivery more than his message. It's too bad that he lacks self awareness and self control. No one would mind if he simply disagreed with the district on an issue and made an argument. But he doesn't have to be personally insulting and borderline racist. No excuse for that.


Angel M
Registered user
Gemello
on Nov 11, 2016 at 9:26 am
Angel M, Gemello
Registered user
on Nov 11, 2016 at 9:26 am

@Mt View Neighbor

Firstly, it's Mtn View, not "Mt" as we are not Mount View.

Secondly, seriously? You don't see Nelson's behavior as inappropriate? I can't wait for him to fade away. We all need a little more kindness these days.


J
Monta Loma
on Nov 11, 2016 at 10:36 am
J, Monta Loma
on Nov 11, 2016 at 10:36 am

@ Angel.

Did you really just criticize a neighbor for saying "Mt" instead of "Mtn" and then say "We all need a little more kindness these days"?!?

Talk about throwing bricks through glass houses. Reread your comment and reflect on it. It doesn't matter how people abbreviate a city name if it's not hurtful.

Kindness starts with you. The same kindness you speak of.


MV Parent
Monta Loma
on Nov 12, 2016 at 7:50 am
MV Parent, Monta Loma
on Nov 12, 2016 at 7:50 am

Proud of Dr. Rudolph for standing up to this deplorable behavior. Especially now.


Leave Nelson!
Monta Loma
on Mar 20, 2017 at 12:40 pm
Leave Nelson!, Monta Loma
on Mar 20, 2017 at 12:40 pm

How can we get rid of Steve Nelson from our politics? He has been so destructive to our community and our kids's chances of getting a decent education. Is there anything I/we can do as to get him to leave us alone? Any petition? Anything??


Whine and Cheeze
Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Mar 20, 2017 at 2:04 pm
Whine and Cheeze, Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Mar 20, 2017 at 2:04 pm

I think the only thing to do is to pull up your big boy pants and be an adult.


So what
Cuesta Park
on Mar 20, 2017 at 2:19 pm
So what, Cuesta Park
on Mar 20, 2017 at 2:19 pm

Any one can make a PR request, whether a board member or not. What makes you think his behavior will change when he is off of the board?


Abigail
Willowgate
on Mar 20, 2017 at 5:06 pm
Abigail, Willowgate
on Mar 20, 2017 at 5:06 pm

Steve Nelson did not run for re-election and has been off the board since the first Board meeting in December 2016.


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