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Monthlong curfew to start in Santa Clara County Saturday night

Gov. Newsom announces limited stay-at-home order for all purple tier counties in California

Customers dine while pedestrians walk around on Castro Street in downtown Mountain View. A monthlong curfew meant to discourage nighttime gatherings and stem the spread of the coronavirus begins at 10 p.m. on Nov. 21 in all purple-tier counties, such as Santa Clara. Photo by Magali Gauthier.

Gov. Gavin Newsom issued a monthlong stay-at-home order Thursday intended to reduce nighttime gatherings and limit the spread of the coronavirus.

The order will require nonessential work and gatherings to stop from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. in counties assigned to the "purple" tier, the most-restrictive tier in the state's pandemic reopening system.

A total of 41 counties are in the purple tier as of Monday, including Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Monterey, Napa, Sonoma, Solano, Santa Clara and Santa Cruz counties.

According to Newsom, the order will begin Saturday, Nov. 21, and last through Dec. 21.

"The virus is spreading at a pace we haven't seen since the start of this pandemic and the next several days and weeks will be critical to stop the surge," Newsom said in a statement. "We are sounding the alarm."

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Newsom first floated the possibility of a curfew order on Monday when the state moved more than two dozen counties into the purple tier due to rising coronavirus case rates and hospitalizations across the state.

Dr. Mark Ghaly, secretary of the state's Health and Human Services Department, said the state chose to issue a curfew to prevent the need for further, even tighter restrictions.

"We've seen in the past that COVID goes from zero to 60 mph very quickly," he said during a briefing on the new stay-at-home order, adding that "all tools are on the table."

Ghaly suggested that issuing a curfew would discourage state residents from engaging in higher-risk, late-night activities like going to a taproom or restaurant, even with restrictions limiting seating to only outdoors.

Preventing such actions, he said, could save the lives of people who may be more vulnerable to developing serious complications from contracting the virus.

"Maybe you're a worker who's out at night with a group of friends, outdoors even, and you contract COVID and then you go the next day to work and it is passed on, maybe not the next day but a day or two later, to a vulnerable resident in a congregate care facility," he said. "Exactly the situation we want to avoid."

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, recently endorsed the potential use of a curfew to limit the spread of the coronavirus.

Fauci, asked about the potential of a curfew on Tuesday while receiving an award from San Jose State University, said conditions can vary from county to county and city to city, but that he supported the general premise.

"You don't like to be very prescriptive," he said. "But, sometimes when you're dealing with the seriousness of the situation right now, I leave it up to the good judgment of the leaders of your states and your cities to make that (decision)."

Ghaly said the state's decision to issue the monthlong curfew had more to do with the state's current surge in cases rather than the potential for large gatherings during Thanksgiving and other upcoming holidays.

"In many ways, the days and weeks to come will be different than in years past," he said. "And, in order for us to do the best we can with controlling this virus, we're going to have to keep our guard up, make some tough choices."

Watch California Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Dr. Mark Ghaly discuss the status of COVID-19 across the state at a Nov. 19 video call conference:

Watch California Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Dr. Mark Ghaly discuss the status of COVID-19 across the state at a Nov. 19 video call conference:

Find comprehensive coverage on the Midpeninsula's response to the new coronavirus by Palo Alto Online, the Mountain View Voice and the Almanac here.

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Monthlong curfew to start in Santa Clara County Saturday night

Gov. Newsom announces limited stay-at-home order for all purple tier counties in California

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Uploaded: Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 2:42 pm
Updated: Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 9:42 am

Gov. Gavin Newsom issued a monthlong stay-at-home order Thursday intended to reduce nighttime gatherings and limit the spread of the coronavirus.

The order will require nonessential work and gatherings to stop from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. in counties assigned to the "purple" tier, the most-restrictive tier in the state's pandemic reopening system.

A total of 41 counties are in the purple tier as of Monday, including Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Monterey, Napa, Sonoma, Solano, Santa Clara and Santa Cruz counties.

According to Newsom, the order will begin Saturday, Nov. 21, and last through Dec. 21.

"The virus is spreading at a pace we haven't seen since the start of this pandemic and the next several days and weeks will be critical to stop the surge," Newsom said in a statement. "We are sounding the alarm."

Newsom first floated the possibility of a curfew order on Monday when the state moved more than two dozen counties into the purple tier due to rising coronavirus case rates and hospitalizations across the state.

Dr. Mark Ghaly, secretary of the state's Health and Human Services Department, said the state chose to issue a curfew to prevent the need for further, even tighter restrictions.

"We've seen in the past that COVID goes from zero to 60 mph very quickly," he said during a briefing on the new stay-at-home order, adding that "all tools are on the table."

Ghaly suggested that issuing a curfew would discourage state residents from engaging in higher-risk, late-night activities like going to a taproom or restaurant, even with restrictions limiting seating to only outdoors.

Preventing such actions, he said, could save the lives of people who may be more vulnerable to developing serious complications from contracting the virus.

"Maybe you're a worker who's out at night with a group of friends, outdoors even, and you contract COVID and then you go the next day to work and it is passed on, maybe not the next day but a day or two later, to a vulnerable resident in a congregate care facility," he said. "Exactly the situation we want to avoid."

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, recently endorsed the potential use of a curfew to limit the spread of the coronavirus.

Fauci, asked about the potential of a curfew on Tuesday while receiving an award from San Jose State University, said conditions can vary from county to county and city to city, but that he supported the general premise.

"You don't like to be very prescriptive," he said. "But, sometimes when you're dealing with the seriousness of the situation right now, I leave it up to the good judgment of the leaders of your states and your cities to make that (decision)."

Ghaly said the state's decision to issue the monthlong curfew had more to do with the state's current surge in cases rather than the potential for large gatherings during Thanksgiving and other upcoming holidays.

"In many ways, the days and weeks to come will be different than in years past," he said. "And, in order for us to do the best we can with controlling this virus, we're going to have to keep our guard up, make some tough choices."

Watch California Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Dr. Mark Ghaly discuss the status of COVID-19 across the state at a Nov. 19 video call conference:

Find comprehensive coverage on the Midpeninsula's response to the new coronavirus by Palo Alto Online, the Mountain View Voice and the Almanac here.

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Jeremy Hoffman
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Rengstorff Park
on Nov 20, 2020 at 8:25 am
Jeremy Hoffman, Rengstorff Park
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on Nov 20, 2020 at 8:25 am
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Please be safe, everyone! We're all in this together! Wear masks. Stay physically distanced. Gather outdoors where fresh air disperses aerosol droplets.

My family has cancelled our very modest Thanksgiving plans. I cherish the thought of past and future holidays together. But it's not worth the cost in human suffering that we could cause by inadvertently spreading COVID among my family and then throughout the community.


Gary
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Sylvan Park
on Nov 20, 2020 at 9:44 am
Gary, Sylvan Park
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on Nov 20, 2020 at 9:44 am
7 people like this

[Post removed due to being off-topic]


Steven Goldstein
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Old Mountain View
on Nov 20, 2020 at 1:16 pm
Steven Goldstein, Old Mountain View
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on Nov 20, 2020 at 1:16 pm
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The Hospitals report they will be overrun in 3 weeks if this keeps up in the Merc.

The story is here (Web Link)

“SEE WHAT YOU MADE US DO”

We could have PREVENTED this.

But NO, you all had to be selfish, and wanted to hurt or kill as many people you could.

You ALL that wanted to open up and not take preventative steps should be identified and ARRESTED for attempted murder.


Victor Bishop
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Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Nov 20, 2020 at 4:25 pm
Victor Bishop, Another Mountain View Neighborhood
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on Nov 20, 2020 at 4:25 pm
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"But NO, you all had to be selfish, and wanted to hurt or kill as many people you could.
You ALL that wanted to open up and not take preventative steps should be identified and ARRESTED for attempted murder."

Truly ridiculous comments Steven. Almost as ridiculous as you being glad that there were fires so that the smoke caused people to say inside in Septmber.
The article you link to tells were the large proportion of the cases are. This has been going on there for months. What is Cody and the county doing about it.

And since you claim that ALL were involved, turn yourself into the police.


PeaceLove
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Shoreline West
on Nov 20, 2020 at 4:27 pm
PeaceLove, Shoreline West
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on Nov 20, 2020 at 4:27 pm
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Steve Goldstein: The urge to ARREST people for "attempted murder" is an extremely authoritarian one. Many on the Right have called for arrests and purges of their political enemies, and I'm now sadly seeing the same language coming from the Left, aimed at Trump Administration officials and, now, at those who want to open up society again.

Regardless of whether you personally agree with it or not, a government-mandated curfew (which incorporates magical thinking in assuming gatherings become more dangerous after 10 p.m.) is a step towards more top-down social control. People skeptical of such policies should not be subject to arrest.


Steven Goldstein
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Old Mountain View
on Nov 20, 2020 at 5:25 pm
Steven Goldstein, Old Mountain View
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on Nov 20, 2020 at 5:25 pm
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In response to Victor Bishop you wrote:

“Truly ridiculous comments Steven. Almost as ridiculous as you being glad that there were fires so that the smoke caused people to say inside in Septmber.”

That was what happened, at least during that time the spread of COVID was prevented by the unhealthy outdoor air. You Know This. You wrote:

“The article you link to tells were the large proportion of the cases are. This has been going on there for months. What is Cody and the county doing about it.”

The County did everything it could, it told people to wear masks, it told people to social distance, it told people not to interact of go to places that could be contaminated with COVID.

BUT YOU ALL IGNORED THESE GUIDELINES AND CAUSED THE NEW INFECTIONS.

These people are guilty of INLOUNTARY MANSLUGHTER in California, which is defined as:

“Involuntary Manslaughter Charges in California

Involuntary manslaughter is the killing of another person without malice or intent to kill, but rather done with THE CONSCIOUS DISREGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE. California law defines this as:

A death occurring during the commission of a non-felony unlawful act; or

A legal act that has a high risk for death or bodily injury, AND THE DEFENDANT FAILED TO ACT WITH CAUTION.

A conviction for involuntary manslaughter in California carries a state prison sentence of two, three or four years.” Defined by the law firm of Robert M Helfand you can read there information here (Web Link)

To me the Department of Public Health gave these people the right advice, they acted with conscious disregard for human life and they acted intentionally to fail to act with caution.

This is settled law. So when PeqaceLove said:

“Steve Goldstein: The urge to ARREST people for "attempted murder" is an extremely authoritarian one. Many on the Right have called for arrests and purges of their political enemies, and I'm now sadly seeing the same language coming from the Left, aimed at Trump Administration officials and, now, at those who want to open up society again.”

This is the law, and I hope these people get prosecuted and made an example so this nightmare we are in NEVER occurs again. The people are being given the information to establish that violating the guidelines, and maybe soon requirements will result in appropriate action. But when you wrote:

“Regardless of whether you personally agree with it or not, a government-mandated curfew (which incorporates magical thinking in assuming gatherings become more dangerous after 10 p.m.) is a step towards more top-down social control. People skeptical of such policies should not be subject to arrest.”

Actually violation of any guidelines or curfews are going to result in possible INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER. This is not POLITICAL, it is LIFE AND DEATH here!


Victor Bishop
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Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Nov 20, 2020 at 5:31 pm
Victor Bishop, Another Mountain View Neighborhood
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on Nov 20, 2020 at 5:31 pm
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My response to Steven Goldstein: Yawn


Steven Goldstein
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Old Mountain View
on Nov 20, 2020 at 8:03 pm
Steven Goldstein, Old Mountain View
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on Nov 20, 2020 at 8:03 pm
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Unbelievable,

That so many here think it is a matter of "individual liberty" instead of being a "public threat" or "danger".

That what many posters that have written here promote.

Time for you to be recognized for being a threat to us ALL.

But all of you use anonymous names to avoid personal responsibility.

If you really think your in the right, self identify yourselves.


Steven Goldstein
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Old Mountain View
on Nov 21, 2020 at 11:02 am
Steven Goldstein, Old Mountain View
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on Nov 21, 2020 at 11:02 am
35 people like this

In any case:

There goes any holiday shopping except online.

This is going to ruin the "13th" month of retail.

In the 1980s I worked retail in electronics. The November December period was called the 13th month because of all the holiday buying.

The lack of employment will ruin any chance of any real economic progress for next year.

No doubt, there will be no way to avoid another major unemployment insurance extension and expansion. If not done, the country will be in a depression very fast.


donny Jr
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St. Francis Acres
on Nov 21, 2020 at 6:42 pm
donny Jr, St. Francis Acres
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on Nov 21, 2020 at 6:42 pm
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" aimed at Trump Administration officials "

Aimed at those who are still healthy in the adminsitration, or the FORTY NINE who already have Covid?

Asking for a friend....


Steven Goldstein
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Old Mountain View
on Nov 22, 2020 at 7:06 pm
Steven Goldstein, Old Mountain View
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on Nov 22, 2020 at 7:06 pm
22 people like this

60 Minutes did a great report on long term impairments even after recovery of COVID.

My god, if the death is bad enough, the living with the aftermath is still a serious problem.

And NO ONE even wants to address it.

Instead so many out there want to "open up" and try to ignore that part of the problem.

How many thousands of people are going to he impaired or disabled due to COVID, the price of disability insurance and long term health care is going to be incredible.


Tragedy
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Cuernavaca
on Nov 23, 2020 at 2:18 pm
Tragedy, Cuernavaca
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on Nov 23, 2020 at 2:18 pm
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Thousands of senseless deaths with a vaccine on the horizon are truly tragic. C'mon everyone! Hang in there for 3-6 more months! Save lives!

Even if we can't all get the vaccine immediately, those who do get it (medical workers, at-risk folks, frontline essential workers) will make the rest of us safer through safer public interactions.


Greg David
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Old Mountain View
on Nov 23, 2020 at 8:06 pm
Greg David, Old Mountain View
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on Nov 23, 2020 at 8:06 pm
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There sure is a lot of mental illness in MV.


Steven Goldstein
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Old Mountain View
on Nov 23, 2020 at 9:10 pm
Steven Goldstein, Old Mountain View
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on Nov 23, 2020 at 9:10 pm
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Greg,

WOW you said a mountain in such a small statement.

But scary as it sounds, the entire world is in grief and in a depression at the least. I know I am a doom and gloom guy by many peoples point of view. It isn't a false observation.

But my HOPES are we ALL learn a lesson and stop bickering with each other and start cooperating.

I still believe that if we do this again in the next generation, we never make the mistakes we did now. We could have killed COVID without a vaccine if we had acted sooner.


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