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Google fiber gets go-ahead

Original post made on Sep 26, 2014

Progress is being made in bringing Mountain View the ultra fast Internet access promised by Google Fiber, according to an agreement announced Tuesday.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, September 26, 2014, 1:48 PM

Comments (39)

Posted by Get it done fast!
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Sep 26, 2014 at 1:54 pm

Fiber is so unbelievably fast compared to what we're currently dealing with.
Entire movies in seconds with none of the download errors we have to deal with.
This is Google pushing the entire industry to upgrade to fiber.
Watch the current providers scramble to catch up.
Its all good for the consumer. Big providers were fat and happy not having to upgrade their networks and making huge profits. Now that has changed. If you don't use Google Fiber, thank Google for at least making the other companies upgrade to fiber.


Posted by Geek
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Sep 26, 2014 at 2:17 pm

Geek is a registered user.

The more internet providers the merrier. I used to have fiber from AT&T but their stupid pricing policies (no, I do not want TV and phone services!!!) forced me to switch to cable from Comcast. I hope to switch back to fiber with Google soon.


Posted by Resident
a resident of Monta Loma
on Sep 26, 2014 at 2:25 pm

Is this the eyesore that is on top of the Mayfield mall?


Posted by Sparty
a resident of another community
on Sep 26, 2014 at 2:26 pm

Sparty is a registered user.

I don't think AT&T had fiber


Posted by Competition
a resident of Jackson Park
on Sep 26, 2014 at 2:35 pm

AT&T, Comcast, sonic.net and now maybe Google. Prices may come down.


Posted by Answers and Verification
a resident of Bailey Park
on Sep 26, 2014 at 2:35 pm

Resident: No
Sparty: Correct.


Posted by buncha
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Sep 26, 2014 at 2:43 pm

if it took them 7 months just to endorse an agreement, imagine how long it will take for it to be available.


Posted by senior mmk
a resident of Whisman Station
on Sep 26, 2014 at 2:49 pm

Have dealt with both Comcast & ATT each of who seems to be competing for the #1 spot in the nation for the 'worst customer service'. The Internet monthly price that they offer is only the starting point; then come the 'equipment leasing", installation, fees, taxes etc, etc. (all of which were supposed to be included in the monthly Internet service price). Yeah! Right!!!

Hopefully when Google begins the new service it will come up with ONE all inclusive price and cut out all this crap.


Posted by Robert
a resident of Slater
on Sep 26, 2014 at 3:09 pm

Robert is a registered user.

Does the thought of having 1400 sq/ft "huts" placed somewhere in our neighborhood not concern anybody? I for one have not viewed Google's plans to see just what these "huts" will look like, or where they will be placed. Is this information available on line? This sounds a lot like Pelosi"s Obama care crack "You have to vote for it in order to see what's inside" If there is a plan map for MV on line, could someone please post the link.

Thanks.


Posted by Pilar
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Sep 26, 2014 at 3:34 pm

Fiber network "huts" of 1,400 sq. ft.? Imagine a rectangle the size of 20 feet by 70 feet or a single family home in the U.S. Yikes.


Posted by Monta Loman
a resident of Monta Loma
on Sep 26, 2014 at 3:34 pm

The huts are 360 sq/ft surrounded by chain link fence with barbed wire on 1400 sq/ft of land.

Not as large as stated in the article. But pretty ugly: Web Link


Posted by Sean
a resident of Monta Loma
on Sep 26, 2014 at 3:44 pm

Robert: Does it concern me? Nope. Small price to pay for true broadband competiton and real network speeds.


Posted by LoveYourDNA
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Sep 26, 2014 at 3:46 pm

Doesn't everyone need more fiber? ::snerk::


Posted by Geek
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Sep 26, 2014 at 8:19 pm

Geek is a registered user.

@Sparty, Answers and
You are not correct
Web Link
and while it was not gigapower (just regular u-verse) in my case, I do have a fiber box in my garage.


Posted by DDD
a resident of another community
on Sep 26, 2014 at 8:35 pm

About time; I wonder what took them so long. The sooner I can get away from ATT/Comcast the better.


Posted by Duke
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Sep 26, 2014 at 9:11 pm

Does anyone realize that Google has no clue what it wants or is doing?
How many more ill conceived and incomplete projects are they going to force down Mountain Views throat.
They are like a 12 year old who found an unlimited source of money and does not know what to do with it.But wants to do and have everything 'right now' often getting bored and losing interest quickly. Then it moves on to the next ill conceived and senseless project.
They need to put some serious thought and planning into concepts and then obtain feedback and make adjustments instead of the whim of the day process they are using now.
Examples:
Blimp hangar, land development stalled at Moffett, busses???, bridge, congestion, housing, Google fiber, etc.etc.etc.
If Google proposes or supports anything...look closely for... what's in it for Google.
With someone competent, intelligent and powerful in charge of a community relations committee these issues between Mountain View and Google could evolve to create a model for the future of the high tech industry.


Posted by mr_b
a resident of Monta Loma
on Sep 27, 2014 at 3:07 am

Google Fiber: Moves your internet crap faster.


Posted by Amelia
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Sep 27, 2014 at 8:24 am

This is great news!


Posted by DDD
a resident of another community
on Sep 27, 2014 at 10:39 am

@Duke

Google has always been a company that moves fast, experiment, and fails fast if things don't work out. I won't pretend do know exactly what they're up to, but I'm pretty sure they didn't get to a $400B company by just being lucky or not knowing what they're doing.


Posted by Vince
a resident of Monta Loma
on Sep 27, 2014 at 2:05 pm

A friend of mine who is an AT&T customer in Austin said that AT&T immediately cut it prices significantly as soon as Google Fiber arrived. U.S. telcos and cable providers have defacto monopolies, and real competition such as this is much needed.


Posted by Marty
a resident of Monta Loma
on Sep 27, 2014 at 2:43 pm

So a deal was cut at a closed door (what sunshine law?) meeting to approve something google might do, that might give me the same bandwidth i had 10 years ago, but requires building ugly structures, presumably mostly on private property google doesn't own, (is eminent domain part of this deal?) and costs me $300 "construction"? Not to mention all of the roadwork to construct the ditches to lay the fiber in, presuming google doesn't simply cut a deal with whomever owns the line pools to string it all in the air.

By the way, google *did* get lucky, which is how they got to be a huge company: they lucked into the ad brokering business, and nor do they 'fail fast'. It has typically taken 5 or more years for them to finally recognize a beta has failed (or, in this case, the pole mounted wifi) and shut it down.


Posted by Jason
a resident of Monta Loma
on Sep 27, 2014 at 3:40 pm

Great news. Just an FYi, I definitely would not support a city council candidate that wants to block Google Fiber. Fast, reliable internet matters. Can't wait to say goodbye to Concast forever.


Posted by CopperC
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Sep 27, 2014 at 4:00 pm

The contract should specify who pays to remove them at end of life. Similar to take-down provisions for Google WiFi on streetlights, and Ricochet take-down costs in the ancient past.

Oh, and electricity. Will they require upgrades to PG&E substations?


Posted by PhilC
a resident of St. Francis Acres
on Sep 27, 2014 at 7:06 pm

So who says the new system wold be Pure Fiber? It is already possible, if not likely, to achieve fiber-like performance over copper-wire connections for that "last-mile" connection to subscriber's homes. Such an arrangement facilitates speedy system installation with minimal trenching by incorporating existing phone lines, and multiplexing assures video/Internet/telephone service without interference.
I can declare this is true because I have AT&T service with this arrangement for nearly a year now at a comparable rate to Comcast or Direct. Installation was simple and direct with no complications. I am not a heavy TV user, so I cannot comment on the download times for movies or network specials and series, but what I do have certainly works for me.


Posted by What is "fiber-like" performance?
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Sep 27, 2014 at 11:16 pm

PhilC said: "It is already possible, if not likely, to achieve fiber-like performance over copper-wire connections for that "last-mile" connection to subscriber's homes... I can declare this is true because I have AT&T service with this arrangement for nearly a year now..."

Google Fiber can get up to 1,000 Mb/sec over it's fiber service.
Is it *really* possible to get 1,000 Mb/sec over the crappy copper wire that winds its way between the telephone exchange and my house? I don't think so, but if anyone has it, please share your performance #'s.

Holding breath now.. :)


Posted by PeaceLove
a resident of Shoreline West
on Sep 29, 2014 at 2:11 pm

I'd like to put in a plug for my ISP, Sonic.net a locally-owned provider. They're DSL and kind of slow, but...

They are the NUMBER ONE RATED ISP for protecting customer privacy: Web Link

Unlike Comcast and AT&T, which save ALL your internet browsing records for *years,* Sonic.net only saves data for 2 weeks. Google, whose entire business model depends on farming every last bit of your personal data, is not getting into the broadband business for altruistic reasons. Using Google as your ISP will be the equivalent of surrendering every last shred of your privacy in exchange for faster browsing.

Nothing to hide? Web Link


Posted by Sparty
a resident of another community
on Sep 29, 2014 at 2:55 pm

Sparty is a registered user.

OK so one person had AT&T Gigabit. The rest get 6mbps ..if that. Or 100+ with other carriers that serve almost everyone.


Not being available to most of the area isn't much help. A few test houses doesn't help the rest of the city. Back in the day you could get T1 when everyone else was on


Posted by Duke
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Sep 29, 2014 at 7:08 pm

Reading the comments of people much more familiar with and knowledgeable about high speed internet it sounds like this is again a halfhearted effort by Google that will only provide great "eyewash" prior to election time in an effort to pull the wool over the Mountain View residents eyes. Just prior to election time!! Surprise!!

How about a true fiber optic, high speed, ground breaking system that feeds all the way into each home at a fair and reasonable cost. One that Google can merchandise in other areas for big bucks. That would make sense.

1400 sq feet is about the average size of a whole house in this area. Where would they put those? And what will they look like??? Bunkers???

Some serious well thought out planning could be put into this to make it a very valuable part of Google, and welcome to our community. But...????


Posted by newcomer
a resident of Monta Loma
on Sep 29, 2014 at 9:14 pm

There are cities in the real world that have gone so far as to change their name to try to get Google to build Google Fiber there (Web Link Grow up, people.


Posted by Mr.Recycle
a resident of another community
on Sep 29, 2014 at 10:39 pm

@Duke - the story is wrong, the huts are 11.5'x 28' - so 322 square feet, not 1,400. The specs are are in the appendix of the google fiber checklist.

Web Link


Posted by Scott Lamb
a resident of Monta Loma
on Sep 30, 2014 at 8:51 am

Scott Lamb is a registered user.

Marty: No one is forcing you to pay for Google Fiber. The $300 would be something residents choose to pay. It's the one-time fee for basic 5 Mbps service. It's guaranteed to last at least 7 years, so it comes to $3.58/month or less. It's a really good deal if you just need basic Internet service.

Duke: This *is* a true fiber optic, high-speed, ground-breaking system that feeds all the way into each home at a fair and reasonable cost. Many people would probably buy the $70/month gigabit Internet service. If you can find another company that will provide that service at that price in Mountain View, please let me know so I can sign up now.

If Google Fiber comes to Mountain View (I hope it does!), the service will probably be similar to Kansas City's. Web Link

Full disclosure: I work for Google. I have nothing to do with Google Fiber, though, except wanting it in my Mountain View home...


Posted by Resident
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Sep 30, 2014 at 2:19 pm

It blows my mind that some MV residents argue against any sort of changes, even against things like better internet service. If you don't like it, you don't have to buy it, but don't argue against a service that your neighbors may like.


Posted by Scooter
a resident of Jackson Park
on Oct 1, 2014 at 2:58 pm

Heck, I'd take half fiber if it meant not having to deal with AT&T and Comcast.


Posted by SignMeUp
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 2, 2014 at 2:44 pm

This is great news.


Posted by Yes, please.
a resident of Waverly Park
on Oct 3, 2014 at 7:33 pm

Thank you, Google! Competition is always good. In my neighborhood, Comcast has a monopoly because AT&T is pathetically slow and internet is becoming a necessity.


Posted by Anyone but Duke
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 3, 2014 at 8:08 pm

[Post removed; stick to the topic and don't attack other posters.]


Posted by anonymous
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Oct 19, 2014 at 3:25 pm

This news made my day. I was worried about MV leadership after reading articles earlier this year. (Web Link


Posted by anonymous
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Nov 15, 2014 at 5:02 pm

if the city insisted and the money was found, huts could look like preexisting houses with the windows blacked out and the interiors ripped out, with a new utility trench to the street. Other cities have used similar desighs for utilities such as water pumping stations.


Posted by Churchill
a resident of Rengstorff Park
on Nov 30, 2014 at 8:27 pm

Attn all the old farts complaining about the "eyesores": do you equally protest the "eyesores" that are tall antique telephone poles and thick black wires drapping pole to pole? Or would you like to bring back the pony express?


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