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Guest opinion: Keep it civil: Don't vandalize campaign signs

Original post made on Sep 11, 2018

In an op-ed published in the Sept. 7 issue, council member Pat Showalter calls for an end to the defacement of a council candidate's campaign signs.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, September 11, 2018, 10:37 AM

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Posted by Reader
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Sep 11, 2018 at 11:57 am

You can turn the argument on its head — to wit:

Perhaps John Inks, or an ally of his, vandalized Inks' election sign so that Inks can appear to be a victim of his political enemy or enemies?


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Posted by @Reader
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Sep 11, 2018 at 1:16 pm

With the vitriolic comments that have been directed at John Inks from people posting on this site, I would believe more that it came from people who oppose him than from people who support him.


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Posted by Stop the RV slums
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Sep 11, 2018 at 2:00 pm

Look at the comments on the candidates in other Town Square threads. Just look!

HUNDREDS of people support INKS because he is a candidate who offers to deal with the RV problem we have in town.

The truth is we really DO NOT WANT RV'S on the streets. The poor campers don't even own the RVs that are supplied by richer slumlords. Yes - if these RVs were regulated the owners would be shamed for exploiting the poor. But they get away with it because of a few council members who need to go get a real job - now, please!


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Posted by Carrying a can of pink paint
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Sep 11, 2018 at 2:21 pm

I may not stop a sign vandal, but he'll be easy to spot if I ever see him/her doing it.


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Posted by ShorelineWestDude
a resident of Shoreline West
on Sep 11, 2018 at 2:27 pm

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Get rid of the ugly disgusting RVs in our neighborhoods!

This never would have been tolerated in Mountain View in the past.

For some reason we are catering to this blight today due to... what reason?

some sort of socialist liberal agenda ?

I suppose the liberal democrats (not to mention the neo-marxist mayor) on the city council don't live in this neighborhood.

Last night i was walking my dog on Shoreline and there was discarded food and all kinds of trash strewn all over the benches on Shoreline next to the RVs and parked cars.

This is just one such instance.

How long are we going to allow bleeding-heart liberal democrats to retain power in our town? They are destroying our communities.

If you are sick of putting up with this and other insanity, It's time to start walking the precincts!


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Posted by ShorelineWestDude
a resident of Shoreline West
on Sep 11, 2018 at 2:32 pm

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Posted by INKS = No RVs!!!
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Sep 11, 2018 at 2:37 pm

PLEASE vote for this guy! He's the only one who actually cares about our concerns with the out of control RV issue.

Those on the council who have continually turned a blind eye to our concerns about this are about to realize their mistake for ignoring the issue.

For many this is a single issue election and it's ALL about the RVs.

GET OUT AND VOTE! Vote INKS!


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Posted by @Dude
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Sep 11, 2018 at 2:54 pm

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Posted by @@Dude
a resident of Cuernavaca
on Sep 11, 2018 at 3:14 pm

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Posted by psr
a resident of The Crossings
on Sep 11, 2018 at 3:34 pm

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The tagging of ANY sign is disgusting, but I don't find it surprising.

When the answer to losing an election is "Resist the winner. They are evil and those who support them are evil too because they don't think like we do." rather than, "We lost. What in our message and platform doesn't resonate with people?" then this is the result. It is sad that people are so small-minded that they can't respect a difference of opinion. To disagree is fine, but the vitriol is pointless.

As to Ms. Showalter's piece, I agree that he might get more votes, but not because anyone feels sorry for him. John Inks has walked my neighborhood, stood on my doorstep and answered questions about issues in the city and what he would do about them. I voted for him last time and I will vote for him again. After he was elected, he did exactly as he said he would do, and that is why I will vote for him again.

The same cannot be said for Ken Rosenberg, who was the other candidate to stand on my doorstep and answer questions. When asked about his stance on the plan for the VTA to take a lane of El Camino and use it solely for buses, Rosenberg said he would vote against it. He was elected and, when the time came to keep that promise, he turned his back on the people of this city and voted to hand a lane over to the VTA. Why do I mention that here? Because Ms. Showalter did EXACTLY the same thing - said one thing to get elected, then did the opposite once in office. I will never vote for either one of them again. Blatant lies are a sure way to lose my vote. That is far more effective and cheaper than a can of spray paint

So how about we allow ALL the voices to be heard and let the people decide? That was how things worked for decades in this country and it's how it should work now. If you lose, do what the losing side did for years. Lick your wounds quietly, rethink what you are doing and why it isn't working and wait for another chance to convince people. Until then, voice your concern in a civil manner and understand that people acting like toddlers when faced with opposition should learn that we don't always get what we want in life.


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Posted by longtime resident
a resident of Slater
on Sep 11, 2018 at 3:44 pm

Mr. Ink now has my vote. Thanks to the vandals, I looked him up to learn more about him and what he stands for and I'll be sure to remember his name on election day.


Posted by Name hidden
a resident of Bailey Park

on Sep 11, 2018 at 3:47 pm

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Posted by Name hidden
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood

on Sep 11, 2018 at 3:59 pm

Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are automatically removed. Why?


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Posted by ShorelineWestDude
a resident of Shoreline West
on Sep 11, 2018 at 4:03 pm

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INKS has my vote!

@@dude... that's exactly what the mayor is...look at his history... does the truth bother you brother?

and just how would you characterize our present city council? i believe they are mostly democrats... should we soften it up and just say "misguided liberal democrats" just to make you feel better?

This is a full blown political war in case you havn't realized it yet.


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Posted by resident_james
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Sep 11, 2018 at 4:05 pm

I'd like to vote for city council members that are against rent control and would take actions against the RVs... yet not pro-Trump. Which are good candidates?


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Posted by @@Dude
a resident of Cuernavaca
on Sep 11, 2018 at 4:15 pm

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Posted by Old Time MV Resident
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Sep 11, 2018 at 5:49 pm

If you want the RVs to stay DO NOT vote for Pat Showalter, she had a chance to help the RV situation and she voted to keep them on the streets! We need counsel members that remember whom they work for, the residents of Mountain View. Not to vote with some sort of agenda. Let's vote in candidates that will clean up our streets and so we can have a clean livable MV again!


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Posted by YES ON INKS
a resident of Rex Manor
on Sep 11, 2018 at 7:50 pm

INKS IS OUR MAN...OF THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE.

The others are self-serving ideologues with the same party agenda for the RVers and others who are not of or for our community but merely here to take advantage of our community and those of use who struggled to gain a foothold in Mountain View through many personal sacrifices.

INKS IS GENUINE AND REAL NICE GUY WHO WORKS HARD...THAT'S WHY I'M VOTING OF INKS!


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Posted by Mike
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Sep 12, 2018 at 1:10 am

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Sure. Don't deface signs. They are so informative. Take "John Inks" for instance. Inks must be for tattoos. Tats for everyone. And "John" What's a John? A toilet? A customer? Better than Showalter. Sho-walter what? How to talk out of both sides of a mouth? And who is Walter anyway? Siegel. Must have flown in with a storm. What does a Siegel eat? Anything it can get in its big mouth. Signs. Wasn't that a movie? Anybody see any crop circles in Mountain View? Are RVs the same thing?


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Posted by Mike Laursen
a resident of Monta Loma
on Sep 12, 2018 at 7:49 am

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I have known John Inks for a long time, and I can say that he is a no-nonsense person who has always been involved in the community, and genuinely cares about about making sure his home town is governed responsibly.

I don’t think he is “pro-Trump” but even if he were it wouldn’t affect how he serves s a city councilman. He isn’t trying to push some bigger political agenda nor using the position as a stepping stone to higher office. It seems that one of the reasons he came out of political retirement to run again is that he wants to counter what he sees as a trend in council person so using the position to advance bigger political agendas.


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Posted by Silly
a resident of Bailey Park
on Sep 12, 2018 at 8:25 am

@resident James - What on earth does a city council position have to do with Trump? We hardly need to bring partisan politics into this little city council race. Vote for somebody that will improve conditions in MV. Period.


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Posted by @@Dude
a resident of Cuernavaca
on Sep 12, 2018 at 9:19 am

No, Mike, he came out of retirement to try to repeal rent control and push his far-right libertarian agenda. He filed the repeal petition, he recorded a video for their campaign, and look at who's funding his campaign. He's in the pocket of developers who want get rich off the backs of the poor.


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Posted by @ @@Dude
a resident of North Bayshore
on Sep 12, 2018 at 9:35 am

To @@Dude:

You do not know John Inks.

You do not know even his basic principles, that are founded on the US Constitution.

I will vote for Inks because he believes in Mountain View and in the US Constitution, and not the rhetoric you espouse as free speech to the detriment of all, except yourself.


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Posted by The Business Man
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Sep 12, 2018 at 10:27 am

The Business Man is a registered user.

My humble observation:

The best way to manipulate the voters, as proven with history, is to ARRANGE it so it APPEARS that you are subject to a WITCH HUNT by your opposition.

Simply put, there is no evidence indicating who was involved with these acts. There is equal likelihood that those wanting to paint John Inks as a victim are involved.

I see no problem putting video webcams up at these locations so that evidence can be acquired. I DO NOT SUPPORT VANDALISM NOR DAMAGE TO PUBLIC PROPERTY. These signs are public property

That’s All.


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Posted by Otto_Maddox
a resident of Monta Loma
on Sep 12, 2018 at 11:52 am

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Posted by ShorelineWestDude
a resident of Shoreline West
on Sep 12, 2018 at 2:42 pm

ShorelineWestDude is a registered user.

Fact:
never mentioned Trump.

Fact:
You don't need to be a Trumpster to vote for John Inks.

Fact:
whatever you want to call the lenient "inclusive" policies in this so called "freedom city" town, you dont need to look far to see the results... the blight of the RVs and their supporting vehicles is just one glaring example.

and I don't care if @dude continues to try to demonize me as "unhinged"
(as is a popular tactic of the liberal progressive left).
I'm surprised he hasn't called me racist yet.

Fact:
If the council didnt want property values and rents to increase, they should not have kissed the collective butts of Google and others for the last few years
to line the pockets of their friends and the city coffers.

Funny, they are still jacking up the prices of city services even with all that cash coming in (another reason rent costs are going up).

John Inks is the last hope this time around to bring some sense and balance to the city government which has tilted radically to the left in recent years.


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Posted by School is out
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Sep 12, 2018 at 2:59 pm

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Posted by private property
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Sep 13, 2018 at 10:43 am

@The Business Man - I believe that the municipal code of the city is about PRIVATE PROPERTY (political campaign signs) that is allowed to remain on PUBLIC LAND (owned by the City) for a limited number of months before an election, and a limited number of days after an election. The PRIVATE PROPERTY (the signs) then have to be removed by their owners (must be marked on the signs).

For small signs the cost is not really much of an issue, but Max Signs (16 Sq Ft) can actually cost a bit to make and install. PRIVATE PROPERTY allowed for a limited time on PUBLIC LAND.

Signs that are not marked by the owner are in danger of being removed by the city streets dept. and held for their owner to claim. (also in the municipal code)


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Posted by The Business Man
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Sep 13, 2018 at 7:43 pm

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Private Property:

Thank you. My thought was that the First Amendment does allow any candidate to put up a sign without threat of vandalism

I have great problems with John Inks as a politician. BUT HE HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT UP A SIGN AND NOT HAVE IT DAMAGED.

I will not be surprised if those I have had disagreements with during this last year will finally understand that my approach has always been to address the topic.

His comments made in public and on his website MeasureVTooCostly do express a person wanting to substitute reality with his own point of view on the public. That simply means that the public needs to be very careful regarding who will represent them in the City government.


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Posted by Polomom
a resident of Waverly Park
on Oct 21, 2018 at 3:17 pm

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Web Link
Vandal on camera


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Posted by Greg David
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 22, 2018 at 2:33 pm

Greg David is a registered user.

Why did the Voice just scrub all the Town Square comments about the sign vandalism?

Why have they not updated their story to reflect the information provided by MVPD, that Job Lopez has been cited for vandalism?

Why does it seem they are trying to whitewash this story?


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Posted by Mike
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Oct 22, 2018 at 9:01 pm

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The story has now been updated and is already OLD NEWS. JLo is not a candidate. I really did like her, though, in the movie "ENOUGH."


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