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A 'chronic public health issue': Stanford officials troubled by campus sexual assault data

Original post made on Oct 16, 2019

Nearly 40% of undergraduate women who have attended Stanford University for four years have experienced some form of nonconsensual sexual contact, according to results from a campus climate survey.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 12:09 PM

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Posted by Alex M
a resident of Willowgate
on Oct 16, 2019 at 2:47 pm

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So... what I'm getting from this article is that the Brock Turner incident that went to court and resulted the ousting of a judge due to a lenient sentence on a Stanford student, was just the tip of a large iceberg and not an anomalous event as I had seen it characterized.

Posted by Dan Waylonis
a resident of Jackson Park
on Oct 16, 2019 at 4:28 pm

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Wow. I suspect that a boy who misreads a situation and tries to kiss a girl is also listed as “nonconsensual sexual contact”.

If you cast a broad net, you’re going to catch everything.

Posted by member
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Oct 16, 2019 at 4:45 pm

Would it not be relevant in such an article to clearly state what is being called "nonconsensual sexual activity"? No one is defending actual sexual assault, but the definition of nonconsensual sexual activity seems to have been broadened dramatically, to include all sorts of boorish, or even innocently clumsy behavior. Why not shine the light of day on these matters, and particularly, let us know who is defining these terms?

To call this a "public health crisis" seems so overly dramatic, as to indicate that matters are worse than they've ever been. How could that be possible?

Posted by ronewolf
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 16, 2019 at 8:09 pm

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"Troubled"? That's it? What if someone in the Provost's family had been assaulted on campus, and, critically, came forward with the accusation? Perhaps, then the Provost might be a bit more than merely "troubled"? Or, even in that case would the Provost continue to play this down as is Stanford's long time M.O when trouble arises. Seems the Provost, & from some of the other comments here, members of the community continue to doubt that there is a massive problem. What will it take before they wake up to this insidious pervasive tragedy?

My heart goes out to the victims, the many victims.

Posted by Cordelia
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Oct 16, 2019 at 10:42 pm

I’m not surprised at all. When I was a sophomore at Stanford, a classmate I barely knew locked the both of us in my own dorm room. He brought his boom box with him. I told him to leave because I was studying. He wouldn’t leave. I told him to turn off the music. He wouldn’t turn it off. I was scared. I thought, in a few minutes nobody would hear me screaming, so I turned his music off myself. I tried to stay in control of the situation by acting annoyed instead of scared. I was saved by a phone call. I told my friend to stay on the line while I convinced a guy to leave my room. He did leave since now there was a witness. I immediately called the police. The policeman who did intake was extremely sympathetic and said all the right things to calm me down. I wanted the guy to have a police record in case he tried to rape someone else. But the investigator who followed up said all charges would be dropped because he didn’t want to ruin “a young man’s promising future”.

Over the years I’ve wondered how many women’s lives he’s ruined. How many women can’t trust, can’t work with men. How many futures were ruined because we allow men to rape as long as they look respectable. Just look at all the rape apologists here who are ready to minimize non-consensual sexual activity because it’s not actually rape. Disgusting.

Posted by apologists
a resident of Blossom Valley
on Oct 17, 2019 at 9:22 am

> all sorts of boorish, or even innocently clumsy behavior
> maybe that guy was a real predator, maybe he wasn't
> misreads a situation and tries to kiss a girl

Wow. So sad.No wonder there is such a problem.

Posted by Interesting Question
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Oct 17, 2019 at 9:57 am

A young man and woman are walking back to the dorms from getting coffee. The young man is attracted to the girl and feels as if there was some flirtation and perceived signs of affection coming from her.
As they walk through a garden, he nervously attempts to kiss the girl. She pulls away and turns her head and his kiss lands on her cheek.
She explains she's not into him like that. He says he's sorry and they walk back to the dorm engaging in awkward conversation, trying to ignore what just happened.

Would some consider this sexual assault?

Posted by Gary
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Oct 17, 2019 at 10:03 pm

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With so much misconduct at Stanford - including a solid 10% chance of being raped - one must wonder who is in charge. Is there even a rule against instructors using students for sex?

Posted by Gary
a resident of Sylvan Park
on Oct 18, 2019 at 9:52 am

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I asked (above) whether there is even a rule at Stanford against instructors using students for sex. It was a way of asking whether sex by staff with students is barred. I just looked online at Stanford's "aministration guide" including policies on sex on campus. No such policy jumped out at me. I did see and was reminded that Stanford has its own "department of public safety" which has police officers under - but not controlled by - the county sheriff ( i.e. Stanford has its own de facto police department). Tidy arrangement.

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