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Letters to the editor: Natural gas ban, Bullis Charter School, vandalism

Original post made on Nov 24, 2019

Recent letters to the editor on Mountain View's natural gas ban, tree vandalism, Bullis Charter School, Foothill De Anza College District and the late Mike Fischetti.

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Posted by Donna Shoemaker
a resident of another community
on Nov 24, 2019 at 12:04 pm

Dear Dave Arnone,

Thank you for posting your testimonial to friendship, love, and service you learned from Mike. I don't know either of you, but was very moved by your message.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Donna Shoemaker


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Posted by Foothill-De Anza $$$$$$$$
a resident of North Whisman
on Nov 24, 2019 at 1:10 pm

Your money is their money - more and more.


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Posted by @Bullis disparity
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Nov 24, 2019 at 7:17 pm

Where is the proof that they require donations from parents?


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Posted by Not plausible
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Nov 24, 2019 at 10:09 pm

Not plausible is a registered user.

All Bullis ever wanted was plausible deniability that their school is de facto discriminatory along ethnic, socio-economic, and geographic lines. This community is neither blind, deaf, or dumb. You can’t gaslight us.


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Posted by Steve
a resident of Martens-Carmelita
on Nov 25, 2019 at 5:40 am

The gas ban is the dumbest, most intrusive unfunded mandate I can possibly imagine. What a horrible burden to place on new homeowners with so little to show for it. A bridge too far.

The hot air produced by this self absorbed council does far more damage to our environment. It is they who should be banned.


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Posted by MogensLauritzen
a resident of Gemello
on Nov 25, 2019 at 1:50 pm

MogensLauritzen is a registered user.

Regarding Issues with council's natural gas ban;

Let's assume you want to produce 1kWh of heat for your home.

NG heating; assume your heater operates at 95%. You will need 1kWh/0.95 => 1.05kWh of NG.

Electric; The latest GE or Siemens plants operate at 60% efficiency. Add to this a RE energy component of your claimed 32%, with your 6% transmission loss. Thus, 1kWh of electricy at your local main panel require => (1kWh - 0.32kWh)/0.94/0.60 => 1.2kWh of NG at the power plant. Now; a modern heat pump has a 3x boost factor. That is, it can generate 3kWh of heat for every 1kWh electricy consumed. Thus; to produce 1kWh of heat for your home, you will need 1.2kWh/3 => 0.4kWh of NG at the power plant.

The electric solution wins, and only becomes better as you add more renewable energy to our grid.

Regarding range cooking in winter; the opposite could be said in summer where you have to remove cooking heat via an AC.

Regarding having to replace cookware; as I understand the proposed policy, it pertains to new construction only. If anything and if necessary, it affords a good opportunity to upgrade your cookware. Besides, not exactly a major expense.

Regarding reliability of energy distribution; one also has to consider earthquakes. My sense is that any damage to NG pipelines during an earthquake will require considerable more repair time than the electric network.

In an ideal world, a worldwide carbon fee (tax) would be best. But do you really think that will happen anytime soon? If anything, it doesn't hurt to be at the forefront of technology. It might even give us a competitive advantage.


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Posted by Rob Fagen
a resident of another community
on Nov 25, 2019 at 2:12 pm

Regarding BCS donations, discrimination, plausible deniability, and the rest: I don't understand why there are some members of the community who hold on so tightly to ideas that have been proven incorrect. Yes, there is some social pressure to contribute what you can. If you're in a financial position to make up for the per-student funding shortfall resulting from LASD's decisions, then that is welcome. Nobody ever talks about those generous individuals who contribute much more than the amount that closes the funding gap for just their kids. Nobody ever talks about how the parent organization comes together to help financially disadvantaged kids participate on a even footing with all the other kids. Nobody ever talks about how BCS has ramped up outreach to families for whom English is a second language. Nobody ever talks about how with the extreme oversubscription of students who want to attend BCS, there is a random lottery that ultimately decides who attends and who is on the wait list.

I've got my third child in middle school. My two older children received an excellent preparation from BCS for where they are now (one at college and one in high school). I'm glad that LASD has adopted a number of changes to their program in response to innovations at BCS. I've also seen responses in the BCS program to ideas executed by LASD. I'm always disappointed that this sharing of teaching methods and ideas never caught with the LASD administration. I'm always even more disappointed in the LASD Trustees who spend so much time trying to squash the BCS community instead of learning and growing with them.


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Posted by Sophey Brox
a resident of Rex Manor
on Nov 28, 2019 at 1:21 am

electric fleets are one of the best things that can happen to our planet, and to your city, of course.unfortunately, the fleets managers need to deal with a big problem - when and where should they charge the vehicles?Make My Day made a solution that could help them deal with the problem.


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Posted by The Business Man
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Nov 28, 2019 at 8:01 am

The Business Man is a registered user.

What I find laughable about those that oppose electric heating is again it can cost less to use it.

Another factor: most good electric hookups are 220 volts to the home, and that at least one plug is 220 volts for a clothes drier. Thus they are significantly powerful and efficient.

Another NEW factor, renewable electric generation is about to surpass coal generators in the country. Thus there is a significant shift where non carbon impact energy is becoming a reality in the country.

The water aqueducts of California can be made into electric generation systems simply by putting “paddleboards” into them and attaching a generator to them. The energy that can be captured is incredible just there. At the same time, we can erect so much more windmills for wind energy. These sources are reasonably reliable in California because we rarely have no wind, and the aqueducts are always flowing. Solar is the only weakness, but the improvement of electric storage should improve that.

The fact is that the Coal and Gas industry is significantly threatened because there are so many sources of energy that can be captured naturally without any “combustion”. And these resources can be made even better because you can design smaller, high efficient generators that can be dispersed all over, making electric distribution more reliable and safe.

This is something not even being discussed, especially regarding how critics of electric heating claim if the PG&E cannot provide safe electricity. Why only rely on a single resource where many resources can be implemented that can provide cleaner safer and more reliable energy?

The fact is that combustion based electric generation is potentially so much more expensive to build and maintain and control pollutants.

And this is where the “resistance” of renewable energy is coming from. These “combustion” based systems being made obsolete via carbon neutral energy generation will leave these investments to be losses because they can be shut down before they break even in the building process.

These are factors not being discussed.


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Posted by Pointing blame
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Nov 28, 2019 at 8:09 am

Pointing blame is a registered user.

@Rob Fagen — when you say “the per-student funding shortfall resulting from LASD's decisions“ do you mean to suggest that parent choice to attend BCS comes with a consequences blame card? Differential funding was always part of your bargain. Pointing blame for the consequences of your own choice is a bad look.


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Posted by Fuzzy Thinking
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Nov 28, 2019 at 12:46 pm

Interesting that the combined letter comments share a common influence of fuzzy logic.
One guy accuses the charter school of spending too much money; another points
out it is less than LASD spends; then someone accuses the second of complaining
he doesn't get enough money. What's up with that sequence.

Then on the electrical grid comments, some complain the grid can't handle electric
heat and another person points out most houses have 220v service (the all do). The truth
is if a house can have air conditioning it can have electric heat because the heating
uses less power.

On the charter school issue, it is worth noting that LASD has no problem asking for
$2500 per child donations between the PTA and the foundation. It doesn't get it
all either, just like the charter school. Yet LASD operates with over 50%
more revenue per student than the state funding level for its students. How
fair is that? Bullis is not quite as bad even with more of it coming from
public charitable donations (mostly by parents through a foundation). Bullis has
not PTA and it has higher expenses because it has to make up for the shoddy
facilities provided by the district and it operates its own after school programs
instead of charging still more separately to the children that attend. This
after school and between sessions program operation is something LASD doesn't
even try to do. Also Bullis has a longer school day and more hours of instruction
even before the after school stuff is added. Bullis has all credentialed teachers
but it seems to have more younger ones who haven't worked their way up the pay
ladder. Bullis has more teachers per student even if class sizes aren't as small
as in LASD. LASD has been able to markedly increase its per pupil spending
and reduce its class sizes because of all the money it saves them to pay the
lower reimbursement rate to BCS compared to what it has set as its
speding bar for all the students at its various local schools. The small
ones especially cost a lot more per student than do the larger ones like
Santa Rita. It's not so easy to make blanket objections to Bullis funding when
you compare it to the way LASD spends money.


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Posted by Lousy Engineering
a resident of Cuernavaca
on Dec 2, 2019 at 4:42 pm

Most of the above fails to compare the true benefits from the true costs. If electric clearly provided more benefits per cost, why don't all resident switch to electric and away from gas. So the above analysis is missing something. I purchased a gas dryer because my electric dryer was taking longer and longer to dry clothes. The GD cost $75 more than electric. Hooked it up and my electricity bill went down significantly and my gas bill went up about one therm per month. Same goes for a gas cook top. Any serious cook prefers gas to electric or whatever. Same goes for heating a house. The above analysis failed to look at the costs. Electricity rates are regulated below market prices for residential use. Unclear if it costs less to heat a house with electricity and how fast.


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Posted by 'Good' Engineering
a resident of Willowgate
on Dec 2, 2019 at 5:18 pm

wow, speaking of... Lousy Engineering:

do you have anything other than anecdotal evidence to support your claim?


> If electric clearly provided more benefits per cost, why don't all resident switch to electric and away from gas. (sic)

Perhaps because switching over is expensive - a new dryer, new wiring, etc.. The new rules apply to new construction, not existing dwellings.


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Posted by Lousy engineering
a resident of Cuernavaca
on Dec 2, 2019 at 9:48 pm

Anecdotal evidence is still valid evidence since everyone’s personal circumstances vary. Lousy engineering and lousy economics. Forcing new owners to adopt expensive technology just supports my contention that the costs exceed the benefits , otherwise why impose the requirement. If they were beneficial new owners would gladly accept the new technology and wouldn’t require a law to force them to choose something beneficial.


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