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Local bans on residential evictions extended into August, but may leave business tenants behind

Original post made on May 30, 2020

Cities and counties throughout California are racing to extend emergency rules prohibiting landlords from evicting tenants for nonpayment of rent due to the coronavirus pandemic. Mountain View is no exception.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, May 29, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Posted by Make MV pay the rent.
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on May 30, 2020 at 9:59 am

The article is misleading and offers false hope, reality bites. I'm not a landlord, just woke.

Landlords: June 1st, send the 3 day notices to cure or quit for rent delinquencies (get it on file). Make a deal for past rent deficiencies (60/90/120/180 day repayment plan, and get it in writing). June rent is due, make that clear. Let tenants know once the eviction process starts, the process will not be stopped. Courts may be wrong/ confused/delay/refuse to schedule the eviction moment, but landlords are able to file and should file immediately. The sooner the better. Tenants have a responsibility to pay rent just like those who pay utilities, cell phone bills, mortgages, cable TV.........day care, etc. Remember we are all in the same boat. Landlords are not the enemy, Fox News maybe, but not working stiffs trying to keep their rental properties afloat.

Otherwise, (landlords) sell your property and move on. Interestingly enough, those looking to purchase newly constructed single family attached homes (make sure they are sold as "fee simple") will have more opportunity with coming expanded inventory. Fee simple means you own your property from the dirt to the sky and HOA restrictions are less cumbersome and less costly.

Lawsuits against the city and state are coming. Gavin opened churches for the very same reason. Landlords need to get there act together.


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Posted by Landlords
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on May 30, 2020 at 10:41 am

Thank you, Make MV Pay. Everyone will have a great post to look back on and remember the next time landlords start talking about how much they care about our community. The lack of compassion and humanity will be a useful reminder of what landlords think of their tenants and our city during this crisis.


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Posted by Setting up for a mess
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on May 30, 2020 at 11:15 am

I feel bad for renters who make less than $50k a year right now, but the resolution is a set up for a mess. The limited moratorium worked because it is feasible to repay a few months of back rent. Accumulating more than that will make it difficult for unemployed or underemployed renters to repay even with Covid assistance. What will happen if the moratorium is extended until 2021 and the renter's lease expires 5 months from now? How does the landlord go after the renter for the last 8 months of unpaid rent even if they already moved? Property owners will be set up for failure. Expect lawsuits.


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Posted by The Business Man
a resident of Castro City
on May 30, 2020 at 11:16 am

In response to Make MV pay the rent. You said:

“The article is misleading and offers false hope, reality bites. I'm not a landlord, just woke.”

Actually, the article is very accurate. And in fact the shelter in place order is now indefinite in the county of Santa Clara, thus it will continue until the proper drugs or vaccines are made available and delivered to the citizens of Santa Clara County regarding COVID 19. The reality is that this is going to go on perhaps till next year. You said:

“Landlords: June 1st, send the 3 day notices to cure or quit for rent delinquencies (get it on file).”

Can you, given that the ourts are not processing any of these documents, and are likely not going to act until the shelter in place orders are lifted. This is nothing but INTIMIDATION which QULAIFIES as tenant abuse under the law. You are suggesting a very BAD idea. You said:

“Make a deal for past rent deficiencies (60/90/120/180 day repayment plan, and get it in writing).”

Not a bad idea, but no one can do so until the COVID crisis is over. NO ONE CAN MAKE ANY LEGALLY BINDING AGREEMENTS. If they are made, given the situation, they may be disqualified by the courts. You said:

“June rent is due, make that clear. Let tenants know once the eviction process starts, the process will not be stopped. Courts may be wrong/ confused/delay/refuse to schedule the eviction moment, but landlords are able to file and should file immediately.”

Now you are getting to the real point Bit the courts are NOT WRONG under these circumstances. You are just trying to encourage landlords into taking actions that will likely blow up in their faces. You are like the ones that encouraged the Mountain View Landlord now being prosecuted for a violent crime. And you are doing so under the cloak of anonymity. NO ONE should follow advice from an unidentifiable source. You aid:

“Tenants have a responsibility to pay rent just like those who pay utilities, cell phone bills, mortgages, cable TV.........day care, etc. Remember we are all in the same boat. Landlords are not the enemy, Fox News maybe, but not working stiffs trying to keep their rental properties afloat.”

However, you neglect to understand that utilities, cell phones, and even cable tv have already stated they will not discontinue service for non payment. And many mortgages that are federally insured are not required to be paid eith at this time. You are making very misleading comments here. You said:

“Otherwise, (landlords) sell your property and move on. Interestingly enough, those looking to purchase newly constructed single family attached homes (make sure they are sold as "fee simple") will have more opportunity with coming expanded inventory. Fee simple means you own your property from the dirt to the sky and HOA restrictions are less cumbersome and less costly.”

That may be the only way out for those who borrowed money to own properties that are not federally insured. Many are forced to at this time. Air BnB owners are selling their hosted units because they cannot afford the loans they took out to make their “property” management business. There are many landlords that are way over their head in debt, and this is likely the only way out, including bankruptcy. You said:

“Lawsuits against the city and state are coming. Gavin opened churches for the very same reason. Landlords need to get there act together.”

However the U.S. Supreme Court just ruled that Gavin was right and had the authority to close churches. You are not really suggesting that landlords would fare better with the U.S. Supreme Court?

Please be more careful regarding what you post here, you are encouraging very dangerous actions that will harm those who do it.


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Posted by too funny
a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on May 30, 2020 at 3:24 pm

... the Corona, no matter whatever reason for not paying market rent, rent control means fewer affordable units. Subsidies are the only answer at the expense of taxpayers. And, unless MView, SClara or Sacramento decides to get into the public housing business, it's over. Interestingly enough, the Corona will accelerate the demise of rent control.

This was a prior comment on a similar thread.

"This will continue. It is what Mountain View voters voted for. Majority rules. Voters were informed that the rent control ordinance would cause the conversion of naturally affordable rental housing into higher-cost for-sale housing and that's exactly what happened"


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Posted by The Business Man
a resident of Castro City
on May 30, 2020 at 5:03 pm

In response to Posted by too funny you said:

“... the Corona, no matter whatever reason for not paying market rent, rent control means fewer affordable units. Subsidies are the only answer at the expense of taxpayers. And, unless MView, SClara or Sacramento decides to get into the public housing business, it's over. Interestingly enough, the Corona will accelerate the demise of rent control.”

SUBSIDIES DO NOT MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING< THEY RAISE PRICES.

There has been subsidies since the 90s, there are many reports indicating that SUBSIDIES or incentives are not useful at all. All they do is create a means for politicians and lobbyists to inflate housing costs and make inequitable profit margins for those who already have properties built. That has been proven wrong.

SECTION 8 housing is a program that was supposed to build housing, but that law doesn’t work. There are fewer affordable housing unit per capita today than when it was passed. Many other laws have also resulted in the same problem.

I agree, that public housing should be given all the money that was designed for subsidies, and that housing providers be taxed to pay for them. Thus the increased housing supply will drive down costs for residents. Which will cause a market correction on prices.

Now you will say, don’t do that, you will hurt the private sector housing market.

But the private sector housing market doesn’t work. It is insanity to expect a different result to occur by doing the same thing over and over again.

TIME TO KILL ALL SUBSIDIES AND DIRECTLY FUND HOUSING, AND SINCE THESE ARE PUBLIC PROJECTS, SIMPLY TAKE OVER PRIVATE HOUSING SPACES AND KICK THE PRIVATE OWNERS OUT. THEY ARE ONLY ENTITLED TO THE LAND VALUES AND NOT THE PROPERTY VALUES AT MOST.


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Posted by The Business Man
a resident of Castro City
on Jun 1, 2020 at 1:37 am

Well, it looks like there is a eviction ban in place until August 31, passed by the city council.

The report can be found on their website.

Web Link

Until the COVID 19 has a treatment or a vaccine this is going to be renewed, why cant the City Council just say that until notice of a treatment or a vaccine this will be the way it is?

Making band aid statements only makes it more difficult for the property owners because the keep being given false hope of a quick fix.

WE ALL are being hurt by COVID, and unfortunately landlords are NOT immune. You are just going to get used to this situation and expect it will go on indefinitely.

You may want to just declare bankruptcy if your debts are too high, this is an Ellis Act option. The losses are going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

OR you can get your creditors to grant you a holiday, which under this situation should have been enacted months ago by the U.S. and State Governments.

We all have to work together on this, but it appears many simply feel if they can't get what they want, they want to punish those not even responsible for the problem. the problem is the VIRUS. 1 out of 4 people are out of work now. BY NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN.

When will we see say the California Apartment Association to get to work at preparing a moratorium on its members to adjust to this problem?

They should have worked it out so landlords can provide rent holidays until the virus is controlled.


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Posted by The Business Man
a resident of Castro City
on Jun 1, 2020 at 9:26 am

NOW IS THE TIME TO FIX HOUSING IN MOUNTAIN VIEW, HOW? BY BANNING AR BNB AND OTHER SHORT TERM RENTALS.

The U.S. Supreme Court let stand a California City Ordinance prohibiting short term rentals due to the housing crisis.

THe story can be read here (Web Link)

STR and outsourced unit management has crushed the inventory for normal rental business.

Thus driving rents up.

Time for the City of Mountain View to do the same.


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Posted by Robyn
a resident of another community
on Jun 1, 2020 at 2:45 pm

Landlords have bills to pay, too. Unpaid principal earns interest for the lender. Interest continues to accrue.
People who received money from unemployment and the federal funds should pay their bills.


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Posted by The Business Man
a resident of Castro City
on Jun 1, 2020 at 7:25 pm

In response to Robyn yous said:

“Landlords have bills to pay, too. Unpaid principal earns interest for the lender. Interest continues to accrue.”

NOT UNDER THE CARE ACT INTEREST IS SUSPENDED. Of course you mislead the people by making this claim. Now if you used a non federally insured lender, you probably did not qualify for a normal mortgage, and by taking that action, you chose to make yourself vulnerable to loss. That is not the responsibility of the tenants that is yours. So when you said:

“People who received money from unemployment and the federal funds should pay their bills.”

If they do not have the funds, and when is there going to be an end to this situation?

Sorry, but this situation is SEVERE, and it is not feasible to make any repayment arrangements until tenants can get back to work. You are trying to penalize people for a situation way out of their control.

You should be pushing to get mortgage service companies to arrange it so that until the situation is resolved, they will give the landlords a break. You should be working with the U.S. and State governments to arrange some kind of relief that works for both the landlord and the tenant.

Robyn you are angry because this situation is THAT bad.

NO ONE IS IMMUNE TO THE COST NO MATTER WHAT.


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