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Mountain View Whisman teachers' union negotiations reach an impasse over class sizes and work hours

Original post made on Feb 10, 2022

The teachers union says that the Mountain View Whisman district has been unwilling to budge on reducing class sizes or setting defined work hours. District proposals instead focused on increasing teacher pay, which the union rejected.

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Posted by SC Parent
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Feb 10, 2022 at 3:02 pm

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I'll bet the Superintendent throws in the towel and reaches agreement with the Union very quickly after the Board approves a large pay raise for him based on his 'tough stance looking out for the needs of our students' in these negotiations.
Hey, here's an idea - why doesn't the Superintendent lock himself into a 3-year salary so the Board can focus their "attention on what's important, which are the needs of our students" instead of continually evaluating his compensation?

Posted by BDBD
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Feb 10, 2022 at 3:36 pm

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Overtime after 6 hours and 55 minutes? Sounds nice but it definitely doesn't put kids first. Cutting educational time is a dangerous game.

Posted by A
a resident of another community
on Feb 10, 2022 at 9:55 pm

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Teachers are not asking for cutting instructional time or to be paid overtime. All they want is to be compensated fairly for the work that they do. They are asked to attend meetings, grade papers, plan curriculum all that is done outside of the "standard workday" or 6 hours and 55 minutes. You would not see a professional in the private sector be asked to work 2-4 hours beyond the workday everyday plus weekends without being compensated. Teachers are professionals and should be treated as such.

For more perspective, here is a helpful article:
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Posted by Old Steve
a resident of Rex Manor
on Feb 11, 2022 at 10:41 am

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Our traditional definition of "professional", at least in my field, tends to me somebody working for a salary and not represented by a union. Teachers are considered professionals because they are salaried, and have a good deal of independence. When teachers feel the need to resort to unionized techniques, they can appear to be less professional and more like hourly "work to rule" employees. Of course, they have the right to negotiate as to how they are compensated. As a voter, and a former MVWSD volunteer, I'd like to suggest they take the $$$.

Posted by J
a resident of Whisman Station
on Feb 11, 2022 at 11:06 am

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If you think teachers only work 6:55 hours you are truly ignorant on teachers work loads. The Union would be mad to accept a pay raise that doesn’t even follow inflation rates. If you ask teachers they are not worried about pay increases. Its classroom sizes and having in writing what the work hours are and not, until the work is done. Anyone here, would be bonkers to accept a three year contract with no room to negotiate. Let’s see what the Superintendent gets this year on their contract pay increase and see if he gets a three year contract

Posted by SMB
a resident of Monta Loma
on Feb 11, 2022 at 2:39 pm

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It always astounds me how little value we place on teachers. These humans have been showing up for our kids (in a plethora of manners), day in and day out, despite the risks involved. They are asking for a reasonable increase in compensation, appropriate workday hours, and smaller class sizes - all things that benefit students. Where is the issue exactly??? Our teachers deserve what they're asking for. I am a classified district employee who works alongside teachers every day. I see first-hand how much they hustle, and care, and cover classes for each other, and generally make our campuses a safe/engaging/supportive environment for kids. I see the teacher walking a kid safely through the crosswalk during drop-off. I get the 9pm email responses. And I'm invited to the copious meetings that take place outside of classroom time. If you think teachers are *actually* only working 6h 55m per day, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Posted by KittyCatty
a resident of another community
on Feb 12, 2022 at 2:33 pm

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As a former MVWSD parent, I am appalled at how poorly teachers in our district are being treated. The district’s proposed raise is not even in line with inflation, after 2 years of unprecedented obstacles, they’re now earning less (adjusted for inflation)

Salaries of competing districts are readily available online, yet the district continues to claim that their pay is comparable and competitive. The turnover of staff in our district is unacceptably high. Teachers are leaving for better pay elsewhere, while the district blows through funding the training of brand new staff through the BTSA program, year upon year to cover the absences that departing teachers leave behind. It’s a tragedy.

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