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Mountain View Whisman considers expanding scope of Monta Loma redesign

Original post made on Feb 14, 2022

The Mountain View Whisman district is going back to the drawing board after a proposal to fence off Monta Loma school and park sparked a community outcry. It's gathering public input and weighing a reimagining of the entire campus.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, February 14, 2022, 10:59 AM

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Posted by Nagini
a resident of Monta Loma
on Feb 14, 2022 at 12:43 pm

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The problem of undesired use of the school fields during school hours has been solved by the use of a few signs and 15 plastic cones--but why would that stop MVWSD from spending thousands on consultants? Consultants who, not surprisingly, recommend expanding the scope of their project!

This entire project is a ridiculous waste of money and time and Chris Chang is right -- leave our park alone and end this nonsense.


Posted by Steven Nelson
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Feb 14, 2022 at 2:50 pm

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Wheeler and Berman + Blakely. Seems a majority WANT TO SPEND more than half a million dollars on these consultants / before there is even a plan.*

I appreciate Trustee Chang's emphasis, on these tax dollar revenues for education, actually going for EDUCATION facilities projects.

* $481,000 + "more" = about or more-than $500,000 = 1/2 million dollars
IMO this is why 'no more tax' groups like Howard Jarvis .... have some backers.

1/2 million dollars, more than enough IT equipment money for two more cycles of Chromebook purchases for the middle school pupils. County Counsel "As identified in the Measure, Projects may include but are not limited to: ...
• Update classroom computers and instructional technology."


Posted by Free Speech
a resident of Martens-Carmelita
on Feb 14, 2022 at 3:02 pm

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MVWSD is very good at taking taxpayer funds but try to get an answer to a simple question from anyone at their HQ and they are just too busy dealing with "keeping staff and students safe" to give a yes or no answer. The whole security fence issue is an ill-conceived boondoggle.


Posted by smorr
a resident of Monta Loma
on Feb 14, 2022 at 3:04 pm

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I completely agree with Chris Chiang. There are ways to solve the school's concern about security while leaving the park "as is". I was impressed with the way the person we're working with from Carducci Assoc conducted the neighborhood online meeting I attended. He really listened and heard the input given. I'm sure he's right that there are better ways to structure the entire school and park parcel for more efficient use, but it will cost an enormous amount of money which could be better spent. Especially because there's no need to do it.


Posted by quiet_resident
a resident of Waverly Park
on Feb 14, 2022 at 3:07 pm

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The every so steady move to making our schools look like and feel like prisons continues under the watch of this board and superintendent. Seems like the special relationship between the City and MVWSD is fading. Each week a new fence segment is quietly installed to allow people to get used to it before another segment or gate goes up. Instead of tens of thousands of $ on fences, the money could be better spent on EDUCATION. I've decided to vote against any more school bonds or other local public school measures until we have new and better leadership. So sad because we have always supported our public schools.


Posted by Monta Loma Resident
a resident of Monta Loma
on Feb 14, 2022 at 3:59 pm

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As others have noted, the current solution - using temporary cones to delineate school boundaries - has been working for over six months now. It preserves the park as is, allows for school use, and does not cost the millions of dollars that the district wants to spend.

Dear trustees: you have already spend over half a million dollars on exploring this issue and a year and half of our precious time.

Please stop!

This benefits nobody except the very developers who are running this feedback process. Please focus on things that you should focus on: our children's education.


Posted by Nagini
a resident of Monta Loma
on Feb 14, 2022 at 4:25 pm

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Another point that deserves to be made here is the fact that these consultants are being paid enormous fees at the same time that our teachers are out there begging for reduced class sizes and reasonable work accommodations-- and getting shut down by their district. I'd like to hear the trustees justify their spending priorities. I just don't get it.


Posted by Steven Nelson
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Feb 15, 2022 at 7:00 pm

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$ and cents / I'd agree that School Bond Taxes are often going to the 'neatest' and the 'loudest voiced' projects - rather than what the Priorities of the language of what the Bond Tax Measure 'talked about'. Unfortunately - that is the state of current 'oversight controls'. Everything is made squishy language, and the courts have allowed this. (see comentary over the years by Cal Matters, the CA Public Policy Research Institute, the Legislative Analyst and other authorities).

So - it JUST DEPENDS on citizen pressure; Again, and again and again. At School Board Meetings (Public Comment) and in email letters to all the Trustees ([email protected]). GOOD LUCK, & keep trying.


BTW: Bond Tax revenues cannot / ever be used directly for school teacher class size reduction or 'overtime event pay' (extra 504 or IEP federally mandated meetings with parents/guardians)

U of Washington info site : Web Link


Posted by A
a resident of Monta Loma
on Feb 17, 2022 at 9:10 pm

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The black pole fencing that was installed at Imai Elementary (formerly Huff Elementary) in Mountain View looks like a prison. It apparently was placed there to protect the children, but it looks like it would be harder now for the children to run and escape if they had to do so. The budget could be put to use in much better ways -- as another post stated above, the district is currently at an impasse with the teacher's union over class size, work hours, etc. -- perhaps dollars could go to solve other problems that the education world faces right now. Please leave Monta Loma park as is.


Posted by Mark
a resident of Monta Loma
on Feb 18, 2022 at 1:24 pm

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It's rewarding to see so manypeople agree with me about how well the signs and the stanchions (cones) work as a means of delineating purpose. The neighborhood want to keep access to the park and everything the councilman sadi about it not being neccesary is certainly correct. The amount of money spent on this already is maybe an example of how rich city government thinks it actually is rather than What It Is, which is true of so may other community projects going on about town. Let alone all the development crap. And yes that commenter is corect to say that a fence would only reinforce the "schools are but warehouse-prisons for kids, until they're adults" mentality. But this is a city that wants to ban laughing gas.


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