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Building owners hit with 'compliance permit'

Original post made on Dec 10, 2009

Under requirements approved Tuesday by the City Council, property owners caught with buildings that seriously run afoul of city building codes will now have to pay for the time officials spend getting them to comply.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, December 10, 2009, 10:54 AM


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Posted by Special Agent CERT
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Dec 10, 2009 at 11:22 am

When does the next election cycle begin?

ahh yep "automatic presumption a violation exists" is correct. This is why I have a dislike for the Judical in general.

Let see if corruption creeps in as it always does. The idea is good however using funds as a carrot and stick approach is good for creating mistrust.

I think it is fair to make the "compliance permit" activity public to keep people honest. I would expect a report be generated monthly. If the city wil not release the data the community should.

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Posted by Dr. Collateral
a resident of Cuesta Park
on Dec 10, 2009 at 2:58 pm

Dr. Collateral is a registered user.

I'm not quite sure I see how the corruption comes in directly. It's not as if the staff get paid a bonus for bringing a compliance permit application. I suppose the risk is that a staffer might solicit a bribe in exchange for looking the other way on compliance permit, but I'd need to see some proof that bribery is rampant in the planning office.

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Posted by Special Agent CERT
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Dec 10, 2009 at 3:55 pm

Well DR

Your not a criminal it appears. There are many way corruption will take its place. It is very common across American and the World, pay-off and or directed work for political favor is the initial thoughs. Want a Job at the fish market ?

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Posted by New York, New York
a resident of another community
on Dec 10, 2009 at 4:18 pm

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Posted by Patric
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Dec 10, 2009 at 4:55 pm

Case in point. Seascapes Fish and Pets 298 Castro. The city, the attorneys for the neighbor and others assumed the structure on the back of the building was illegal. 75 hours of painstaking research showed the structure to be made in the late 40's to early 50's. Considering most city records were destroyed in the City hall fire in the 60's who is to say it didn't meet code in its time frame or if were built with a permit. Todays city leaders need a better guide to how they will decide were the line is drawn also who would bear the cost should the city charge and then be found in error. I see more lawsuits against the City over this: costing the taxpayer money. Thankful to the City and the cooperation with the landlord the Lee's building was restored. Seascapes continues to operate providing the community with a great pet store. Pretty good if you consider the city asked Seascapes to vacate the building multiple times.

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Posted by k
a resident of Old Mountain View
on Dec 10, 2009 at 6:23 pm

Ah, Socialism at it's finest, were the government comes in and tells you what's best for you.

Yes, when will the next elections be? My vote will go against all, except for John Inks, the man has common sense.

This sounds to me like another way to get rid of current owners so they can plan more high rise apartments.

Fined for selling pumpkins in the wrong place. Unbelievable.

Times are tough and the counsel wants to make it tougher.

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Posted by Bitter
a resident of Waverly Park
on Dec 10, 2009 at 8:53 pm

They get you coming and going...

I purchased a remodelled house with proper permits that passed city inspection. Later, I found out that many areas did not meet building codes. Some were so obvious - to an expert - which seems to me that the city inspector either did not do the job that he/she was paid to do or got paid to look the other way.

Of course, with this new law, I could now be cited for not meeting building codes and costing me extra to pay city hall again for not doing their job in the first place.

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Posted by Steve Rasmussen
a resident of The Crossings
on Dec 10, 2009 at 10:41 pm

As owner of the Milk Pail since 1974, I would like to correct an error in today's newspaper article. The Milk Pail was not fined for our yearly holiday display of pumpkins. We were given a warning by the City Attorney's office to remove our very small display and we complied with this request. I should mention that 300 yards from our market there was a "Pumpkin Patch" in the middle of the Sears parking lot with thousands of pumpkins for sale. The Milk Pail did not know at the time about the city policy which requires obtaining a special permit from the City to have a holiday display like pumpkins.

Last year, the Milk Pail gave 12,000 mini pumpkins free to school children in the Mountain View, Los Altos, Sunnyvale, Cupertino, Palo
Alto and Menlo Park schools. We did this to celebrate our 35 years in
the community along with the successful completion of a very expensive renovation of our small store which brought us into compliance with various current City Code requirements.

This year we again reached out to school children and the elderly by
supplying mini pumpkins to our customers who were teachers, senior
citizen centers, hospitals, preschools and day care centers.

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Posted by Garrett
a resident of another community
on Dec 13, 2009 at 7:24 am

Unsafe buildings, fines, and why should we allow people to have unsafe stuff, it a fire or somthing dangerous would happy, would it be better if the owner or owners fix it, if not fines are in orders, we don't live in a third world country, i think the idea is the city is willing to work with the owners

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Posted by dang
a resident of another community
on Dec 15, 2009 at 7:27 pm

Help Save Mtn. View
Stop Abusive Code Inspections!
Dishonest Politicians Should Be Recalled
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