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The coronavirus has been confirmed in Mountain View

What do we know about the virus and what are local schools doing to slow its spread?

Officials at El Camino Hospital confirmed Friday that the county's new case of coronavirus was treated at its Mountain View campus, at a time when public concern about the virus and how to avoid it are on the rise.

The patient, an adult woman who had no known exposure to the virus through travel or contact with a known infected person, has received care from El Camino Hospital in Mountain View, the hospital confirmed Friday evening, Feb. 28.

The hospital cannot provide specific details regarding the patient in accordance with federal healthcare privacy laws, according to Richard Angeloni, the hospital's interim director of communications.

It has standard protocols in place for dealing with infectious diseases and is working closely with Santa Clara County Public Health Department, California Department of Public Health, and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, he said in a written statement. It is following those agencies' guidelines and instruction in managing the situation.

"The health and well-being of our patients, visitors, and employees are our main priorities, and we take our responsibility to provide a safe environment and the best care very seriously," Angeloni said in a written statement.

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In addition, visitors are being screened at the hospital's entrance and asked if they have been to China recently or if they have in contact with anybody who has.

The basics

The virus is spread person-to-person between those who are in close contact -- within about 6 feet -- with one another, and through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes. It seems to be spreading easily, and in some situations, among people who are not sure how or where they became infected, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control.

It is also possible the virus can spread if it is on a surface or object that someone touches before their mouth, nose or possibly eyes. "This is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads," the CDC reports.

The agency has posted travel alerts advising people to avoid all non-essential travel to China, Iran, Italy and South Korea, and suggests that seniors and people with chronic medical conditions consider postponing non-essential travel to Japan. It also recommends that people reconsider travel plans on cruise ship voyages into or within Asia for now.

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The virus was first detected in Wuhan City, Hubei Province, China and has now been detected in 57 locations internationally. It is believed to have originated in bats.

According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, there have been 15 confirmed cases in the U.S. since Jan. 21, with more brought in to the U.S.

It's likely to continue to spread. The CDC reports that "current global circumstances suggest it is likely that this virus will cause a pandemic."

At this time, there is no vaccine to protect against COVID-19 and no medications approved to treat it," it says.

To prevent infection, people are encouraged to wash their hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds, and use alcohol-based hand sanitizer when hand-washing is not available. People should cough into a tissue or an elbow, not their hands, then throw the tissue away and wash their hands. They should avoid touching their faces.

People should stay home when sick, until their fever has been gone for at least 24 hours without fever-reducing medicines.

If you are sick with coronavirus, or think you are infected with it, you should stay home except to get medical care, separate yourself from other people and animals in your home, call ahead before visiting the doctor, wear a face mask, cover your coughs and sneezes, clean your hands often, avoid sharing personal household items and clean surfaces daily that are touched often. If you have a confirmed case, consult with healthcare providers and state and local health departments to determine when home isolation should end, according to the CDC.

Schools

The Mountain View-Los Altos High School District issued a statement from Superintendent Nellie Meyer laying out its protocols if the number of reported cases of coronavirus grows.

The Santa Clara County Health Department will notify the district if any students or families will be subject to quarantine. If students are quarantined, the schools will to help them work from home. After the quarantine, the health department will let people return to campus. Absences related to such quarantines would be excused.

Students who have returned from China, or who have had contact with a person who has returned from China, are asked to self-quarantine for 14 days. The schools will work with them so they can work at home and related absences will be excused.

In a Jan. 31 YouTube video, Mountain View Whisman School District Superintendent Ayinde Rudolph told parents about some steps the district will be taking to reduce the risk of infection. The district is monitoring absences and illnesses, deep-cleaning common and high-traffic areas and asking children to wash their hands before and after recesses. In addition, he advised that parents or children who are sick stay home, wash their hands regularly, and cover their mouths and use their sleeves to cough.

"Look, I'm just as nervous as you are. I have two kids who are in college and I have a son who's in the third grade and I want to make sure they're safe. I know that's what you care about also. I think we can do some reasonable things to make sure all of our kids stay safe," he said.

The district also has a 55-page plan laying out a clear chain of command and protocols in the case of a pandemic, not specifically the coronavirus. The district is in the process of reviewing the plan to see if anything should be changed to adapt it for the coronavirus, he said.

The Los Altos School District has posted information to its district website with the latest CDC recommendations and links to the county health department's webpage on the coronavirus.

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The coronavirus has been confirmed in Mountain View

What do we know about the virus and what are local schools doing to slow its spread?

by / Mountain View Voice

Uploaded: Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 7:01 pm

Officials at El Camino Hospital confirmed Friday that the county's new case of coronavirus was treated at its Mountain View campus, at a time when public concern about the virus and how to avoid it are on the rise.

The patient, an adult woman who had no known exposure to the virus through travel or contact with a known infected person, has received care from El Camino Hospital in Mountain View, the hospital confirmed Friday evening, Feb. 28.

The hospital cannot provide specific details regarding the patient in accordance with federal healthcare privacy laws, according to Richard Angeloni, the hospital's interim director of communications.

It has standard protocols in place for dealing with infectious diseases and is working closely with Santa Clara County Public Health Department, California Department of Public Health, and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, he said in a written statement. It is following those agencies' guidelines and instruction in managing the situation.

"The health and well-being of our patients, visitors, and employees are our main priorities, and we take our responsibility to provide a safe environment and the best care very seriously," Angeloni said in a written statement.

In addition, visitors are being screened at the hospital's entrance and asked if they have been to China recently or if they have in contact with anybody who has.

The basics

The virus is spread person-to-person between those who are in close contact -- within about 6 feet -- with one another, and through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes. It seems to be spreading easily, and in some situations, among people who are not sure how or where they became infected, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control.

It is also possible the virus can spread if it is on a surface or object that someone touches before their mouth, nose or possibly eyes. "This is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads," the CDC reports.

The agency has posted travel alerts advising people to avoid all non-essential travel to China, Iran, Italy and South Korea, and suggests that seniors and people with chronic medical conditions consider postponing non-essential travel to Japan. It also recommends that people reconsider travel plans on cruise ship voyages into or within Asia for now.

The virus was first detected in Wuhan City, Hubei Province, China and has now been detected in 57 locations internationally. It is believed to have originated in bats.

According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, there have been 15 confirmed cases in the U.S. since Jan. 21, with more brought in to the U.S.

It's likely to continue to spread. The CDC reports that "current global circumstances suggest it is likely that this virus will cause a pandemic."

At this time, there is no vaccine to protect against COVID-19 and no medications approved to treat it," it says.

To prevent infection, people are encouraged to wash their hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds, and use alcohol-based hand sanitizer when hand-washing is not available. People should cough into a tissue or an elbow, not their hands, then throw the tissue away and wash their hands. They should avoid touching their faces.

People should stay home when sick, until their fever has been gone for at least 24 hours without fever-reducing medicines.

If you are sick with coronavirus, or think you are infected with it, you should stay home except to get medical care, separate yourself from other people and animals in your home, call ahead before visiting the doctor, wear a face mask, cover your coughs and sneezes, clean your hands often, avoid sharing personal household items and clean surfaces daily that are touched often. If you have a confirmed case, consult with healthcare providers and state and local health departments to determine when home isolation should end, according to the CDC.

Schools

The Mountain View-Los Altos High School District issued a statement from Superintendent Nellie Meyer laying out its protocols if the number of reported cases of coronavirus grows.

The Santa Clara County Health Department will notify the district if any students or families will be subject to quarantine. If students are quarantined, the schools will to help them work from home. After the quarantine, the health department will let people return to campus. Absences related to such quarantines would be excused.

Students who have returned from China, or who have had contact with a person who has returned from China, are asked to self-quarantine for 14 days. The schools will work with them so they can work at home and related absences will be excused.

In a Jan. 31 YouTube video, Mountain View Whisman School District Superintendent Ayinde Rudolph told parents about some steps the district will be taking to reduce the risk of infection. The district is monitoring absences and illnesses, deep-cleaning common and high-traffic areas and asking children to wash their hands before and after recesses. In addition, he advised that parents or children who are sick stay home, wash their hands regularly, and cover their mouths and use their sleeves to cough.

"Look, I'm just as nervous as you are. I have two kids who are in college and I have a son who's in the third grade and I want to make sure they're safe. I know that's what you care about also. I think we can do some reasonable things to make sure all of our kids stay safe," he said.

The district also has a 55-page plan laying out a clear chain of command and protocols in the case of a pandemic, not specifically the coronavirus. The district is in the process of reviewing the plan to see if anything should be changed to adapt it for the coronavirus, he said.

The Los Altos School District has posted information to its district website with the latest CDC recommendations and links to the county health department's webpage on the coronavirus.

Comments

Hysteria Won't Help
North Bayshore
on Feb 29, 2020 at 1:06 am
Hysteria Won't Help, North Bayshore
on Feb 29, 2020 at 1:06 am

Let's face it, the pandemic is here and will continue on its natural course. We can do little to stop or slow it - China, with its extreme measures, has not succeeded and we have no newer techniques. But most of us will recover; many may not get sick at all. What is really needed now is a measured response to the difficulties it will cause in the short term. It will be easy to make this worse than it has to be. Please, let's not do that!


el Presidente
another community
on Feb 29, 2020 at 7:09 am
el Presidente, another community
on Feb 29, 2020 at 7:09 am

"We can do little to stop or slow it - China, has not succeeded and we have no newer techniques. But most of us will recover"

YES! Some will lose family members, many might be horribly sick but probably recover. It's just hard to breathe. Many will skip work. Many will not get tested because they have crappy insurance, but hey, y'all are good and will at least hide in your caves till you're symptom free, amiright?

Less than 12 hours ago, the President called the whole thing a HOAX.

It's silly. That's why Donald Trump appointed Pence to run the whole thing. So silly that Pence's first action was to fly to Florida (for a fundraiser.)

Stop worrying, folks. We're cutting budgets for the CDC, Medicare etc.. Web Link

Quit whining. 45 knows all.


Bill Palmer
Old Mountain View
on Feb 29, 2020 at 8:14 am
Bill Palmer, Old Mountain View
on Feb 29, 2020 at 8:14 am

The most pressing need we have is for the Federal government to take the lead what is clearly a national health emergency. And to be open and honest about the spread of the virus and the effectiveness of the actions taken.

Unfortunately, we have a president who fired the epidemic teams from the Center for Disease Control two years ago, and is now lying about the virus. Incredibly, trump is blaming democrats! trump's chief of staff called corona virus "a hoax" yesterday. We are on our own on this one, folks.


el Presidente
another community
on Feb 29, 2020 at 8:18 am
el Presidente, another community
on Feb 29, 2020 at 8:18 am

"The most pressing need we have is for the Federal government to take the lead"

Mike Pence is in charge! He'll get started right after he returns from Florida and his fundraisers!

Winning!


Alex
Old Mountain View
on Feb 29, 2020 at 8:35 am
Alex, Old Mountain View
on Feb 29, 2020 at 8:35 am

Yeah, let's make this a political thing, like eveything else here in California. Snarky political comments are sure to protect you when you are struggling to breathe from viral pneumonia. All Trump's fault! There my fever just went down.


Mountain View Reisdent.
North Whisman
on Feb 29, 2020 at 9:47 am
Mountain View Reisdent., North Whisman
on Feb 29, 2020 at 9:47 am

It seems that being more precautious is the most useful way to contain the virus. China actually has reduced the spread and the numbers of the infected people by utilizing this means. Perhaps wearing even a very basic face mask that you can purchase at a store in places like supermarkets and shops (and then take it off afterward or when you get home once again) is also a good idea.


Steven Nelson
Cuesta Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 9:48 am
Steven Nelson, Cuesta Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 9:48 am

The MVWSD "plan" linked above is a several-year-ago effort, in coordination with the County Health Department, to correct county-wide errors and confusions associated with the last large novel virus scare. IT IS VERY VERY GOOD in my opinion. It matches anything I worked with in the private sector (semiconductor fabrication),

Watch the Rudolph YouTube, it probably explains this well. The coordinator for Public Safety drills and training is Kathi Lilga in the District Office (works directly for Superintendent Rudolph). If you are a current or former MVWSD parent, who has ever work a "fire drill" or "earthquake drill" you will have seen the level of professionalism in how these are organized - vastly increased over the last decade. That is largely due to Lilga's training and coordination with outside-the-district professional disaster management groups. The 'trainer' for the site principles is Lilga, the uniform coordination (and post-event review) is under Lilga. Her efforts, I have always heard from principals year-in and year-out are always excellent and well appreciated.


dc
Sylvan Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 10:42 am
dc, Sylvan Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 10:42 am

Why new Virus? This is often caused by Over crowding, expansion into once unclaimed area exposure to non common animal spices that carry the virus. (like rabies it still exist but is treated i the US never eliminated) Unsanitary living conditions, rapid development causing influx of workers traveling, poor medical care poor medical treatment allow it to spread.


first death in WA
Bailey Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 12:17 pm
first death in WA, Bailey Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 12:17 pm

So it starts ... with the first coronavirus (COVID-19) death reported in Washington. The first of how many?


Standing Ovation
Old Mountain View
on Feb 29, 2020 at 12:18 pm
Standing Ovation, Old Mountain View
on Feb 29, 2020 at 12:18 pm

Sorry, but Superintendent Ayinde and the Mountain View Whisman School Board have already shown so many instances of administrative bungling, public communications disaster and program mismanagement that literally anything put out is view with skepticism and doubt.

In other words, when Superintendent Ayinde attempts to tell anyone to relax, that there's no need to panic, or that they have everything under control, it's pretty much a guarantee that the time to panic has arrived.

[Portion removed due to disrespectful comment or offensive language]


Standing Ovation
Old Mountain View
on Feb 29, 2020 at 1:54 pm
Standing Ovation, Old Mountain View
on Feb 29, 2020 at 1:54 pm

@Steve Nelson

Thanks for the laughs. Can you ever stop patting yourself on the back? A district office secretary that has been there for years is in charge? I fail to see her qualifications for this impending public health crisis that could threaten 5 thousand children.


Jim Neal
Old Mountain View
on Feb 29, 2020 at 3:02 pm
Jim Neal, Old Mountain View
on Feb 29, 2020 at 3:02 pm

It's so nice to see that people can still come here to anonymously hurl baseless insults with no supporting links whatsoever. Even better that people can use what is a serious situation to try to score political points.

In my opinion, they are just showing how shallow they really are. Is the Coronavirus a serious threat? Possibly. The truth is that we still don't know enough about it yet. Certainly, the media seems to want to stir up as much panic as possible and use it to bludgeon the people that they oppose politically, but so far, there is little real information that we have.

We don't know how contagious it is, or the mortality rate. So far the virus seems to be most deadly to those who are already suffering from other serious medical conditions. We know that the Flu kills up to 60 or 70 thousand people a year here in the US, yet most people don't consider it a serious threat. I am not making a judgement as to whether that is right or wrong, I am just stating a fact in order to put things in perspective.

If we see over time that the Coronavirus kills hundreds of thousands or more here in the US, and that there is no hope of an effective treatment, then it is probably time to panic. However, right now the CDC and our doctors and nurses are doing everything they can to identify and combat this new virus.

Unfortunately, many see this virus as a way to gain political advantage. It is not true that the President fired the epidemic teams from the CDC. While Snopes says that this is true, they don't tie the actions directly to the President. Here is what Snopes says: It's so nice to see that people can still come here to anonymously hurl baseless insults with no supporting links whatsoever. Even better that people can use what is a serious situation to try to score political points.

In my opinion, they are just showing how shallow they really are. Is the Coronavirus a serious threat? Possibly. The truth is that we still don't know enough about it yet. Certainly, the media seems to want to stir up as much panic as possible and use it to bludgeon the people that they oppose politically, but so far, there is little real information that we have.

We don't know how contagious it is, or the mortality rate. So far the virus seems to be most deadly to those who are already suffering from other serious medical conditions. We know that the Flu kills up to 60 or 70 thousand people a year here in the US, yet most people don't consider it a serious threat. I am not making a judgement as to whether that is right or wrong, I am just stating a fact in order to put things in perspective.

If we see over time that the Coronavirus kills hundreds of thousands or more here in the US, and that there is no hope of an effective treatment, then it is probably time to panic. However, right now the CDC and our doctors and nurses are doing everything they can to identify and combat this new virus.

Unfortunately, many see this virus as a way to gain political advantage. It is not true that the President fired the epidemic teams from the CDC. While Snopes says that this is true, they don't tie the actions directly to the President. Here is what Snopes says:

__________________________________________
The “pandemic response team” firing claim referred to news accounts from Spring 2018 reporting that White House officials tasked with directing a national response to a pandemic had been ousted.

Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer abruptly departed from his post leading the global health security team on the National Security Council in May 2018 amid a reorganization of the council by then-National Security Advisor John Bolton, and Ziemer’s team was disbanded. Tom Bossert, whom the Washington Post reported “had called for a comprehensive biodefense strategy against pandemics and biological attacks,” had been fired one month prior.

It’s thus true that the Trump administration axed the executive branch team responsible for coordinating a response to a pandemic and did not replace it, eliminating Ziemer’s position and reassigning others, although Bolton was the executive at the top of the National Security Council chain of command at the time.
_______________________________

So as you can see, it was actually the hero, John Bolton, who took the actions and not President Trump. I also could not find anything indicating that the President directed or even suggested that Bolton take these actions. However, according to another article that you can read here ( Web Link ), Bossert was fired by the hero, John Bolton, during his effort to consolidate his power; not ( as Snopes appears to suggest) because Bossert had called for a comprehensive defense strategy against pandemics and biological attacks.

It's also interesting that people are saying that the President said the Coronavirus is a hoax, when he acted very quickly to prevent and contain and possible spread from its point of origin, China. Especially in light of the fact that when he did so, he seemed to be the only person taking it seriously and was called a 'racist' for trying to protect the American public. The president's comparison was in regard to the way it was being politicized to try to blame him and his Administration for a problem that they had absolutely no part in creating.

Some may recall that there were some in Congress that were so alarmed by the virus, that while it was spreading throughout China and Europe, they were tying up BOTH houses of Congress with several weeks of an impeachment trial! Even last week, no one was proposing any legislation to allocate funds or proposing any actions to combat the virus. I still haven't heard anyone come up with any better ideas on what actions to take, only criticisms.

It's easy to sit back at throw rocks at someone else when you have absolutely no responsibility to take action.


Jim Neal
Modesto, Ca
(Formerly Old Mountain View)


el Presidente
another community
on Feb 29, 2020 at 4:21 pm
el Presidente, another community
on Feb 29, 2020 at 4:21 pm

Jim: "It's so nice to see that people can still come here to anonymously hurl baseless insults with no supporting links whatsoever."

Yes! Thanks, Jimmy, for your link (whoops - *you* didn't use links either!) about Trump firing his stupid, useless, swampy bureaucratic Pandemic Team!

Who needs a Pandemic Team for a hoax!



Snopes: did Trump fire his Pandemic Team - Yes! True! Web Link And Trump had 2 years to hire them back - but no way, swamprats!


More links:

Trump: "This is their new hoax" (search any google list or Breitbart)

"Mike Pompeo refuses to deny conspiracy theory that coronavirus is ‘hoax created to damage Trump’
US secretary of state sidesteps question after president accuses opponents..." Web Link

Pence knows it's a hoax, that's why: "What’s on Mike Pence’s schedule as coronavirus point man? A fundraiser in Florida. - The $25,000-per-plate GOP event featuring the vice president is in Longboat Key." Web Link

There ya go Jimbo, my friend, that's how you link to all the great action of 45, truly a man of action!


Bad Headline
Cuesta Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 4:34 pm
Bad Headline, Cuesta Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 4:34 pm

You really shouldn’t have a headline that indicates the patient is from Mountain View. The El Camino Hospital treats patients from alll around the region. They have several illnesses and exposures everyday that the staff deals with. They are well trained and by posting this headline is just bad journalism. You can see by the reaction that a headline like this gets your readers to comment and is what I would expect out of a college news paper.


Patrick
Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Feb 29, 2020 at 5:36 pm
Patrick, Another Mountain View Neighborhood
on Feb 29, 2020 at 5:36 pm

To answer a question above: why do these viruses seem to often originate in China? Influenza and other viruses "jump" from animals to humans. Most often, birds and pigs. It is more common in China for people to live in close proximity to both animals. So the viruses jump more frequently in China. The worst flu ever: the "Spanish" flu of 1918, may have in fact started right here in the American Midwest. It's estimated to have killed around 600,000 Americans and 50 to 100 million worldwide.

But I don't understand why anyone is worried. Trump says the virus is a hoax. That's why we haven't bothered to prepare over the last two months, and why the US Surgeon General's website only warns about the dangers of marijuana use and cigarettes.

There's nothing to see here. Move along...


Yolinda
another community
on Feb 29, 2020 at 10:04 pm
Yolinda, another community
on Feb 29, 2020 at 10:04 pm

The only thing we know for sure is that the President never lies to the American people. Plus, our Vice President is working on getting us all into Heaven. Live or die, they have us covered.


Jack Cormode
Waverly Park
on Mar 1, 2020 at 9:35 am
Jack Cormode, Waverly Park
on Mar 1, 2020 at 9:35 am

The very first comment, from 'Hysteria won't help' contained the line, "What is really needed now is a measured response to the difficulties it will cause in the short term."
What we need to do is get ourselves organized to support the First Responders and medical people. CERT teams and our local Army Civil Affairs unit could take the lead. The Responders and medical people will be overwhelmed. It would help them if they knew that other people will be supporting them - helping with their families, offering what talents we have among our populace - to take care of what would normally be be done by the regular staff.
What can we do to help out at this time. Ideas and suggestions are needed at this time. It is time for all Americans to put aside their political differences and pull together.


Jim Neal
Old Mountain View
on Mar 1, 2020 at 9:52 pm
Jim Neal, Old Mountain View
on Mar 1, 2020 at 9:52 pm

I actually did include a link in my comments along with a direct quote in which I named the source of the quote. I also said that people still come here to hurl baseless insults with no supporting links. I don't hurl baseless insults. For those who actually did read my comments, they will see that I did talk specifically about who fired the pandemic team, and why the Snopes evaluation was flawed.

There is ample proof from the headlines and the way the media is covering the Coronavirus that they are trying to put the blame on the President, when none of his critics has specified any actions that they would have taken that are any different. Indeed many of the comments here prove my point that there are people far more interested in scoring political points or feeding into the panic, than trying to solve the problem.

The link to the article in The Independent of the UK, basically just repeats that the President said that his opponents were trying to use this crisis to damage him the same way that they did with the Russian Collusion story (which absolutely WAS a hoax).

As far as the fundraisers, I don't see any of the Democrat candidates stopping their fundraising activities either. There'e no reason that they should. Life should not come to a complete halt just because there is a new unknown problem that we're facing. The worst thing that we can do is to stop living our lives and/or live them in fear. We've faced SARS, we've faced Ebola, and now we're facing the Coronavirus. I'm betting that after 3 months or so we'll better understand it and life will pretty much go back to normal just like it did after those two.


Jim Neal
Modesto, Ca
(Formerly Old Mountain View)


Yolinda
another community
on Mar 2, 2020 at 5:02 am
Yolinda, another community
on Mar 2, 2020 at 5:02 am

As a precaution this (Monday) morning, President Trump has ordered the deportation of all Cornoa beer - back to Mexico. The beer may then be re-imported but only upon payment of a tariff directly to the Trump Foundation.


home of registered user
Monta Loma
on Mar 2, 2020 at 6:12 am
home of registered user, Monta Loma
on Mar 2, 2020 at 6:12 am

@jim - so in your roundabout, verbose way, you're trying to hide the fact that Trump fired the pandemic team by saying....


"Trump appointees fired the pandemic team, and during two years of golf trips, Trump hasn't rehired them."


Thanks for clearing that up.


Name hidden
Old Mountain View

on Mar 2, 2020 at 2:30 pm
Name hidden, Old Mountain View

on Mar 2, 2020 at 2:30 pm

Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are automatically removed. Why?


Otto Maddox
Monta Loma
on Mar 2, 2020 at 2:34 pm
Otto Maddox, Monta Loma
on Mar 2, 2020 at 2:34 pm

Jim Neal - your posts are way too long. No one is reading all of that.

I'm here to say Covid-19 is being hyped. Seriously. The death rate is going to turn out to be much lower than what is being reported right now (1%).

If it was 1% there would piles of dead people in China and Iran right now. More than even those shuttered governments could hide.

But don't let logic get in the way of fear and uncertainty. Part of this is the 24 hour news cycle. They just talk like the world is ending, over and over. Show maps with huge red circles over every major city. Helping no one while they're at it.

Then it bleeds over into Farcebook which is barely based on reality anymore.

Relax. I'm going to Hawaii in two weeks. I'll probably have the place to myself.


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